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Kid is shot, killed by neighborhood association captain

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Who knows what your response would be if you were being beaten and had you head smashed into the ground..I know i would defend myself with whatever means possible. I'm sure some of yall would roll over and take it.

And who said that wasn't in response to Zimmerman choking Martin or whatever was happening at the time? We don't know what happened during that scuffle. We don't know how long it lasted, how back and forth it was, none of that. I'm interested to see if there was any damage on Martin other than the fatal shot. I've seen nothing on him having cuts or scrapes or any other damage. The autopsy would cover that I'd imagine.

That self-defense argument can go either way.

Also, if Zimmerman was hurt, why would he refuse treatment or go to a hospital to get checked out afterwards until the next day, to confirm further his self-defense argument?

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I would think him saying "these assholes always get away" shows he planned on doing something so one less asshole would get away.

Mmnnn, no.

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The self defense argument in this situation is a total joke. We're talking about a 17 year old kid armed with skittles...gimme a break.

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I learned one thing on huddle from all this. People have no fuging clue about basic law in country they live in. People jump to conclusion all to fast and scream "Hang him!" before they know what really went on.This is exactly why government loves American people.

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The self defense argument in this situation is a total joke. We're talking about a 17 year old kid armed with skittles...gimme a break.

I can tell you never been in life or death situation. Must be nice to sit behind your computer screen and pretend like you know what happened. Stick to UFOs.

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And who said that wasn't in response to Zimmerman choking Martin or whatever was happening at the time? We don't know what happened during that scuffle. We don't know how long it lasted, how back and forth it was, none of that. I'm interested to see if there was any damage on Martin other than the fatal shot. I've seen nothing on him having cuts or scrapes or any other damage. The autopsy would cover that I'd imagine.

That self-defense argument can go either way.

Yes it can go either way. But that is not the question. The important question here is, is there a possibility that Zimmerman is telling the truth, and if so, does that provide reasonable doubt as to his guilt?

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I am sure many are dissapointed, now that the truth has come out. Kid was a bit of a hood. Well still, bright side is when the poo hits the fan, everbody will be getting new flat screens and sound equipment. Hell there will likely be plenty of beer and shoes for all. Bad turn. Bad turn indeed.

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Now that the truth is out, nobody is going to listen to it.

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I learned one thing on huddle from all this. People have no fuging clue about basic law in country they live in. People jump to conclusion all to fast and scream "Hang him!" before they know what really went on.This is exactly why government loves American people.

People who have an emotional investment in their beliefs are going to be irrational. This includes those on both sides. The sad fact is that it has come down to sides. Us vs. Them. It is a tragedy for everyone involved. Both persons made foolish decisions. As long as emotion rules the day, justice is virtually impossible. I don't know if we as a nation will ever grow up enough to actually practice justice.

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Yes it can go either way. But that is not the question. The important question here is, is there a possibility that Zimmerman is telling the truth, and if so, does that provide reasonable doubt as to his guilt?

What would be helpful in that case is documentation of his injuries. By that I mean medical personnel looking over him, pictures, whatever. I find it weird he wouldn't get medical attention until the next day, especially if there's a possibility he had any head trauma or a broken bone. I would want to be assessed in a medical facility, and that would happen before I consent to police questioning.

Another thing that would help is the autopsy report on Martin (if one is being done). It that shows any damage other than the bullet wound (such as head trauma, a broken bone, whatever), then Zimmerman will be in much, much more trouble.

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People who have an emotional investment in their beliefs are going to be irrational. This includes those on both sides. The sad fact is that it has come down to sides. Us vs. Them. It is a tragedy for everyone involved. Both persons made foolish decisions. As long as emotion rules the day, justice is virtually impossible. I don't know if we as a nation will ever grow up enough to actually practice justice.

Exactly.

Emotions is what makes us different from animals but it also can be our worst enemy.

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Who knows what your response would be if you were being beaten and had you head smashed into the ground..I know i would defend myself with whatever means possible. I'm sure some of yall would roll over and take it.

I would defend myself and curse the moment I put myself in a situation where someone just beat the living poo out of me because I stalked them down. But it doesn't really matter what we would do at that point, does it?

Would you get out of your car, knowing full well police were on the way, and chase down someone in the situation he was in? We know EVERYTHING he did up to the point he left his car. Can you really say, "What he did makes perfect sense"? It may not have been criminal to leave his car and stalk Martin but IMO he is responsible for the ensuing confrontation because of it... as nobody, not even Zimmerman, tries to say that Zimmerman identified himself as neighborhood watch to Martin. Martin probably thought he was a mugger or worse...

I can tell you never been in life or death situation. Must be nice to sit behind your computer screen and pretend like you know what happened. Stick to UFOs.

True, I don't make it a habit to stalk teenagers in gated communities... wait what kind of life or death situation is that? Oh yeah, one that Zimmerman created.

Now I don't think that Zimmerman should be hanged, but I think it is a very sad reflection on the laws of this country that they don't even have the evidence for an arrest and charge of manslaughter apparently. Yes, ladies and gents, it is totally legal to put yourself in a situation where you frighten someone into attacking you so you are "forced" to kill them.

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