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#16 Leeroy Jenkins PhD

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:51 AM

I am not so sure it is about our lack of cap space. Our NFL front office has been historically very good about manipulating the current contracts and cap management.

If we were 30 million under, do you think we would have brought in any of the top tier FA's? Most likely not. That is the way of the Panthers and one of the reasons I love this team. I agree with their strategy. The second we pay Mario Williams 100+ million dollars when he has never done anything for our Franchise is the second I question the intelligence of our front office.

You pay players for their performance on their initial contracts. You reward those individuals who have been performing for you. Not some DE with no team loyalty trying to sell his services to the highest bidder. At least that is my opinion. I like the way our team does business.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 11:52 AM

I've been a Panthers fan for almost 10 years now so I'm used to quiet free agency periods. I have a few comments to make about all of the people throwing temper tantrums.


Anyone who thought we were actually going to sign Mario Williams is a complete fuging moron who has no clue about how the NFL actually functions. Besides the fact that we don't have the cap room, you must not have been a fan of us for very long because it's well known that we build through the draft and not free agency. I'm convinced that people throwing a fit are fair weather fans or people who are only here because of Cam. The Carolina Panther's way of doing things is the proven best way. Dallas, Tampa, and Washington can spend all the money they want and it never does them any good at all. Teams like us, Patriots, Giants, Ravens, Packers, and Steelers all build through the draft and those are the teams that have the most success.


So GTFO and go back to the team you bandwagoned before Cam was here if you don't like the way things are done.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:00 PM

I want you to point the the people out who wanted us to sign Mario Williams.
Matthias, sure, but nobody cares about Matthias. I'd like for you to point out one poster who was asking for Mario Williams.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:07 PM

I've seen multiple people here say that they want Mario Williams come "home" to us.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:08 PM

Point them out.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:09 PM

Show me that people were being serious and complaining that the FO wasn't actually pursuing him.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:29 PM

I've seen multiple people here say that they want Mario Williams come "home" to us.


So what if they did....do you think you are the only one whos opinion counts? People can can have an opinion on how best to build the team and still be fans just like 1/2 the fans always want us to draft a wr with our 1st pick are still good fans.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:41 PM

I'm not worried yet because I think we will bring in some solid guys at the lower end of the pay scale, but if we don't have solid alternatives to TD and Otah going into this season we can't just blame bad luck anymore.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:44 PM

:beatdeadhorse5: :rolleyes:

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:47 PM

I am not so sure it is about our lack of cap space. Our NFL front office has been historically very good about manipulating the current contracts and cap management.

If we were 30 million under, do you think we would have brought in any of the top tier FA's? Most likely not. That is the way of the Panthers and one of the reasons I love this team. I agree with their strategy. The second we pay Mario Williams 100+ million dollars when he has never done anything for our Franchise is the second I question the intelligence of our front office.

You pay players for their performance on their initial contracts. You reward those individuals who have been performing for you. Not some DE with no team loyalty trying to sell his services to the highest bidder. At least that is my opinion. I like the way our team does business.


There is sooooo much wrong with your posts. Good gracious.

#26 The Huddler

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:48 PM

Some need to chill about FA. Ya wana be like the skins and be awful every year? not me!

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:52 PM

If we can address our current situation at CB and safety, it will be a huge improvement from last year. Especially playing in the NFC South where every team has a vertical offense.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 12:56 PM

I agree with CCS who did the Pats and Steelers get? have a nice day ?

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:06 PM

I agree with others that we just don't have the cap space, and just don't have the money to pull the trigger on anybody.

With that said, I disagree with the idea of not using free agency to build. Yes it's totally insane to blow up FA like the Skins, and just throw money around. I understand that we have had some bombs in the past, and our track record with FA's hasnt been great, but building solely through the draft takes ALOT of time, 3-5 years if we are being reasonable, add to that folks that want to win now and you get these posts. I think if used to fill certain needs that standout(and just look at the roster as of today, we need a ton of special teams and defensive help), I think we all can agree that we have a ton of needs and some that arent gonna be cured strictly through the draft.

And while Im at it, ill probably get flamed for this but here goes- Im a Panthers fan, I will pull for them no matter what, and Im tired of hearing we want to run things like the Steelers. We aren't the Steelers, Patriots, Skins... I dont care how the Steelers run their team, we have been around long enough that we need our own identity. Let's run things like the Panthers. I would like to see a team that builds through the draft and utilizes FA's to better the team, period.

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Posted 15 March 2012 - 01:22 PM

We have actually done quite well with FA in the past ex Jake, S Davis, Lucas, Moose,Shockey etc ....

Edited by jasonluckydog, 15 March 2012 - 01:28 PM.



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