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Waterboarding was used on KSM and stopped a 9/11 style attack on LA

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And how are you to assure that it's pertinent info? I think the McCain thread is a perfect testament to that...

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to find out how crucial the info is, there has to be a way.

Im not saying waterboarding is the way to go. But if you capture someone or have a strong suspect you don't ask general info questions then call it a day.

But now with what will be released, the gig is up on any future waterboarding. Now any terrorists knows it won't be used and if so they know how to work around it.

So Im still going to ask. How would you find out info from someone you have in custody?

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Can I waterboard Fiz? I'd like to break the CIA's record, too.

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Hypothetical situation for the conservatives:

You have a chance to abort the person who will one day kill your family, do you now support abortion?

I sure as hell would!!1!!!

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pstall I think you are incorrect. I am sure that anyone so inclined would be trained to resist waterboarding if they knew that was our policy. Now how do they prepare? Everyone here assumes that there are no more tricks the CIA could use if needed, but I am sure that there are - and that they are not in the Army Field Manual.

Now we will hopefully get back to using more psycologically sound methods to get information.

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Hypothetical situation for the conservatives:

You have a chance to abort the person who will one day kill your family, do you now support abortion?

I sure as hell would!!1!!!

Especially if he was teh Ghey!

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pstall I think you are incorrect. I am sure that anyone so inclined would be trained to resist waterboarding if they knew that was our policy. Now how do they prepare? Everyone here assumes that there are no more tricks the CIA could use if needed, but I am sure that there are - and that they are not in the Army Field Manual.

Now we will hopefully get back to using more psycologically sound methods to get information.

Which is?

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Which is?

Hi, I'm Barack Obama. I apologize for the evils perpetrated by my country. Please tell me what you know.

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sex and drugs of course.

I am no expert on this stuff, but all the articles I've read have experts in the field of interrogation saying that this type of work generally yields unreliable information, so they must have some other methods that yield better results?

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So lets walk thru this. The guys waterboard. Whatever info they get they follow up on.

If its wrong time after time you would think they stop. Wouldn't there have to be something that had a sliver of credibilty/ results to continue?

Or did the suspects just tell them what they wanted to hear and either tripped up and gave away nuggets by accident or the guys doing the waterboarding are off the charts diabolical?

Again. Im not for waterboarding but I am for getting info. You don't sit this guys down with The Bobs and hope something comes out that can be used.

Of course now they are going to release pictures of detainees abuse in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not sure what good will come from that.

Basically opening up a scab all over again.

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