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Not saying he will be VW, or Ngata, but that's who he reminds me of.

I'm not saying draft him, as I have never talked to the dude. But if he wants it, he can be a good NFL player as he has the skill set to do so.

And let's be honest, DT is our most glaring need at the moment, either that or the CB position.

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Not saying he will be VW, or Ngata, but that's who he reminds me of.

I'm not saying draft him, as I have never talked to the dude. But if he wants it, he can be a good NFL player as he has the skill set to do so.

And let's be honest, DT is our most glaring need at the moment, either that or the CB position.

CB is most glaring because we dont really have a CB with size on the team. While DT was horrible last year it was because the Rookies were taking there lumps. You put another Rookie in this year and the same will happen. Its just the learning curve of the NFL. If we want to see improved DT play we need to pick up a FA like Garey and let our other two DTs develop.

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But if it doesn't translate on the field it is a pretty mute point. Goes back to lots of physically impressive guys don't make

the best players.

Poe is the polar opposite of Brown and I personally view that as a negative. Poe had all the physical tool (outside of his alligator size midget arms he had all the tools) and still was great against weak comp.

Name a first round pick out of a weak conf that didn't dominate with the opportunity.....but worked out as a pro.

Good lord, where to start?

Just last year, Jason Pierre Paul.

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CB is most glaring because we dont really have a CB with size on the team. While DT was horrible last year it was because the Rookies were taking there lumps. You put another Rookie in this year and the same will happen. Its just the learning curve of the NFL. If we want to see improved DT play we need to pick up a FA like Garey and let our other two DTs develop.

Not disagreeing about which is more of a need, I think it can be argued both ways.

That said, we do have 1 really really good CB in Gamble. We have 0 decent DT's combined.

Learning curve for DT is steep, not denying that, but you also have to have crazy talent and size to be good/great at that position, and I'm not sure that any of our DT's are elite athletes.

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Good lord, where to start?

Just last year, Jason Pierre Paul.

Add our very own Charles Johnson to the list as well....totally forgot about him.

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And let's be honest, DT is our most glaring need at the moment,

Coach Rivera begs to differ......

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Claiborne probably won't be there at 9. He's the only CB worth it at 9. Brockers could go at #6 or #7 because the Rams love him and the Patriots want to trade up for him (worthless DT huh?).

Coples I'd be OK with if the coaches hold a branding iron to his a*s and make him be the player he should be a Mario Williams type.

If there is no Claiborne, Brockers or Coples I hope they do their homework on Poe. Poe could be that guy with NFL coaching no doubt.

DT is of paramount need just ask Beason or Davis

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JJP didn't step on a football field until he was a junior in high school.

College career

Freshman - 14 sacks

Soph - 10.5 sacks

USF - 6.5 sacks

He was named first team all Big East, First Team Little America, First Team WSC.....he was raw and leaning but still dominated at every stage in college career and recieved the top honors every year.

So JPP isn't an example. He was raw...but he did in shorts translated onto a football field despite football being

a new venture.

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JJP didn't step on a football field until he was a junior in high school.

College career

Freshman - 14 sacks

Soph - 10.5 sacks

USF - 6.5 sacks

He was named first team all Big East, First Team Little America, First Team WSC.....he was raw and leaning but still dominated at every stage in college career and recieved the top honors every year.

So JPP isn't an example. He was raw...but he did in shorts translated onto a football field despite football being

a new venture.

Are we really talking about community college.

Come on man.

The guy had 6.5 sacks in D1. I thought that he had the highest boom or bust potential in that draft, very similar to how I feel about Poe.

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Charles Johnson played in the freaking SEC and wasnt a high draft pick. That isn't a weak conference and he was a 3rd rounder. That is the complete opposite of an example.

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That is JPP's resume...can't say he didn't produce in college and ignore 2 of 3 years. Carolina didn't ignore Cam's. His one year in the Big East he still dominated often...just raw. What he did in shorts actually showed on the field. Which is why he was First Team Big East.

JPP was raw. yes. needed to be fine tuned....unlike Poe his freak skill set showed on the football field

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Not disagreeing about which is more of a need, I think it can be argued both ways.

That said, we do have 1 really really good CB in Gamble. We have 0 decent DT's combined.

Learning curve for DT is steep, not denying that, but you also have to have crazy talent and size to be good/great at that position, and I'm not sure that any of our DT's are elite athletes.

We have Edwards who I would not conceder a nobody. He was the top FA DT in 2011. Hopfully he can contribute and our two young DTs can put on some weight and just come in this year a little more experienced. We def saw some flashes from McClain and Fua while not great will learn to stand his ground. Add that with the fact we have some role players in Kerse and Nibblit and we could have a solid unit IF and I say IF everyone stays healthy. Adding Garey would easy my worries some though.

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