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[megadeth078]

this thread is now about Pasquarelli's ridiculous combover:

[Mage]

Marty Hurney is about to get a lesson on the devaluation of the RB position, something the rest of the league seems to already know.

Yeah, which is evident by all of those huge deals teams have signed HBs to lately.

[Lumps]

:lurk:

oh wait these forums suck.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Yeah, which is evident by all of those huge deals teams have signed HBs to lately.

all those? what would they be?

[Louie]

Although I would hate it for this season, I STILL think that Stew gets traded before the draft. They can't afford to sign him long-term.

I still don't see a way that the Pantehrs can tie up nearly $20M per season in the RB position....and that is what they woudl have with DWill, Stew (under a new contract), and Tolbert.

I would hate to lose him....but I would rather get something now than watch him walk for nothing at the end of the season.

Exactly. Just like Hurney's mis-management of the Julius Peppers fiasco. We lost him and got absolutely nothing in return, when they knew beforehand he wouldn't sign.

[Mage]

all those? what would they be?

Foster? Johnson? Peterson? Rice eventually? MJD eventually? Forte was tagged.

It's a myth that the position has been devalued. Plenty of GMs still see it as being an important position; if that wasn't the case, they wouldn't be getting the huge deals that they have and will.

Before any brings up the, "Well, how many backs have been taken in the top five lately?" logic, it doesn't work. The only reason that's been the case because there hasn't been a back good enough to go in the top five since 2008 with McFadden who was, SHOCKER, taken in the top five. Richardson has a shot to go in the top five because guess what? He's a top five quality back. The only people who see the position as devalued are television analysts who know nothing which is why they aren't official NFL scouts.

[xtheronx]

Don't kill the messenger.

no one is trying to kill the messenger .. just saying messenger is bad at reading comprehension

I'm not sure how this is anything new .. he did not say the panthers are listening to trade offers

[R0CKnR0LLA]

Foster? Johnson? Peterson? Rice eventually? MJD eventually? Forte was tagged.

so 3 contracts over the last 2 years. got it. teams sure are going nuts handing out huge contracts to RBs left and right

[Ivan The Awesome]

this thread is now about Pasquarelli's ridiculous combover:

What the hell is that?!

[Mage]

Exactly. Just like Hurney's mis-management of the Julius Peppers fiasco. We lost him and got absolutely nothing in return, when they knew beforehand he wouldn't sign.

Peppers didn't give us an opportunity to trade him because he refused to sign the tender until after the deadline to trade tagged players.

[catfang]

so 3 contracts over the last 2 years. got it. teams sure are going nuts handing out huge contracts to RBs left and right

D'Will got (over) paid last year, right?

[jtnc]

no one is trying to kill the messenger .. just saying messenger is bad at reading comprehension

I'm not sure how this is anything new .. he did not say the panthers are listening to trade offers

the Panthers will "definitely" listen to trade offers for Jonathan Stewart this offseason.

[Mage]

so 3 contracts over the last 2 years. got it. teams sure are going nuts handing out huge contracts to RBs left and right

They get paid huge contracts just as much as LTs, WRs, DEs, etc. do. So what makes those positions valued to teams and not the HB position?

If a team has a back they feel is great/elite, they will get paid. It's been proven and will continue to be proven, which debunks the guys post I initially quoted that claimed every other team has the position devalued but Hurney doesn't.

[R0CKnR0LLA]

FWIW arian foster has been the best RB in the league and got less guaranteed money than DWill

Peterson is the face of that franchise

CJ was coming off one of the best seasons for a RB in history and was holding out until he got a deal


so those are your 3 exceptions for the entire league over the last two years. yes, the position has been devalued as is pretty obvious to everyone. if you haven't figured it out by now you probably won't ever and i'm not going to bother to try to convince you, have fun with your little delusion.

[il Malocchio]

Panthers said after Tolbert was signed "We are not calling anyone trying to trade anybody." That doesnt say they wont listen to offers. I tried to find the thread were this was discussed but I couldnt..

Itd be rather unprofessional if they didnt listen. Of course they will listen to all offers, might even consider a few, and if its real good they will probably take it. But its going to have to be real good.