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#25 Mage

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:34 PM

Exactly. Just like Hurney's mis-management of the Julius Peppers fiasco. We lost him and got absolutely nothing in return, when they knew beforehand he wouldn't sign.

Peppers didn't give us an opportunity to trade him because he refused to sign the tender until after the deadline to trade tagged players.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:35 PM

so 3 contracts over the last 2 years. got it. teams sure are going nuts handing out huge contracts to RBs left and right


D'Will got (over) paid last year, right?

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:35 PM

no one is trying to kill the messenger .. just saying messenger is bad at reading comprehension

I'm not sure how this is anything new .. he did not say the panthers are listening to trade offers



the Panthers will "definitely" listen to trade offers for Jonathan Stewart this offseason.



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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:38 PM

so 3 contracts over the last 2 years. got it. teams sure are going nuts handing out huge contracts to RBs left and right

They get paid huge contracts just as much as LTs, WRs, DEs, etc. do. So what makes those positions valued to teams and not the HB position?

If a team has a back they feel is great/elite, they will get paid. It's been proven and will continue to be proven, which debunks the guys post I initially quoted that claimed every other team has the position devalued but Hurney doesn't.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:41 PM

FWIW arian foster has been the best RB in the league and got less guaranteed money than DWill

Peterson is the face of that franchise

CJ was coming off one of the best seasons for a RB in history and was holding out until he got a deal


so those are your 3 exceptions for the entire league over the last two years. yes, the position has been devalued as is pretty obvious to everyone. if you haven't figured it out by now you probably won't ever and i'm not going to bother to try to convince you, have fun with your little delusion.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:47 PM

Panthers said after Tolbert was signed "We are not calling anyone trying to trade anybody." That doesnt say they wont listen to offers. I tried to find the thread were this was discussed but I couldnt..

Itd be rather unprofessional if they didnt listen. Of course they will listen to all offers, might even consider a few, and if its real good they will probably take it. But its going to have to be real good.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:48 PM

FWIW arian foster has been the best RB in the league and got less guaranteed money than DWill

Peterson is the face of that franchise

CJ was coming off one of the best seasons for a RB in history and was holding out until he got a deal


so those are your 3 exceptions for the entire league over the last two years. yes, the position has been devalued as is pretty obvious to everyone. if you haven't figured it out by now you probably won't ever and i'm not going to bother to try to convince you, have fun with your little delusion.

So you don't think MJD, McCoy, Forte, etc. will eventually get huge deals? Fred Jackson is likely to get a big deal as well. I forgot to mention Charles as well who was extended last year.

Delusion? Facts support it. If the position wasn't as important as you are making it out to be, then teams wouldn't be throwing money at HBs like they do. They are given big contracts just as often as other positions are. So please explain to me how you know NFL teams don't view the position highly. RBs are still drafted in the top ten and again, don't mention the past. Ingram fell because he wasn't that good and in '09, Spiller went in the top ten and Matthews nearly went top 10 in '10. Richardson will likely go in the top seven. McFadden went top five. Peterson went top five. The position is still viewed highly by NFL teams. Just because hacks on television say it doesn't mean it's true. Those same guys also said a certain quarterback wouldn't succeed because he had no work ethic and a fake smile.

Whether you believe the position to be important nowadays is a different story. That's your opinion. But teams still hold the position in high regard.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:50 PM

Foster, Peterson, Williams, Johnson, Lynch and Charles in the last 2 seasons, "MJD in 2009" "Turner and Jackson in 2008", All of those deals are 4+ years and 30+ million.


You can add Forte, Rice, and Stewart to that list as well.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:50 PM

ok apparently mage is a complete idiot so i'm just going to put him on ignore

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:51 PM


Title says Panthers ARE listening to trade offers for JStew ... never mind .. troll on

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:52 PM

all teams are always listening for trade offers.

if the deal is sweet enough, the trade would be made.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:52 PM

ok apparently mage is a complete idiot so i'm just going to put him on ignore

I'm not a grammar Nazi but if you're going to call someone an idiot, at least type up sentences that make it seem like you have something more than a fifth grade education.