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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:59 PM

News Flash: The FO would be stupid not to listen to trade offers...for anyone, including Cam.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 02:59 PM

All Im gonna say is, trading Stewart would be horrible for this team. He is the best RB on the team, he is young and will thrive as a lead back in this league.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:01 PM

All Im gonna say is, trading Stewart would be horrible for this team. He is the best RB on the team, he is young and will thrive as a lead back in this league.



How are they going to resign him? He's declined to talk about an extension with the Panther's and will want as much or more money then Williams got and the Panther's are going to be over the cap next season. (It's expected to remain flat for the most part up till the new ESPN deal kicks in for the 2014 season.)

The team can't cut Williams till 2014 at the earliest because of his signing bonus, there aren't a whole lot of cut possibilities either, Smith will need a new contract, so will Otah and a few defensive players as well.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:07 PM

How are they going to resign him? He's declined to talk about an extension with the Panther's and will want as much or more money then Williams got and the Panther's are going to be over the cap next season. (It's expected to remain flat for the most part up till the new ESPN deal kicks in for the 2014 season.)

The team can't cut Williams till 2014 at the earliest because of his signing bonus, there aren't a whole lot of cut possibilities either, Smith will need a new contract, so will Otah and a few defensive players as well.



I understand all that. Just saying if we trade this guy, its terrible for the team. I love DWill but he should have been the one to go. Stewart is younger and to me the better overall RB. Will be a sad day if Stewart gets traded.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:13 PM

Everyone calm down...I know its been a while since we have all had some football but just a few more weeks until the draft. Hang in there.




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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:14 PM

2nd rounder or bust.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:14 PM

I understand all that. Just saying if we trade this guy, its terrible for the team. I love DWill but he should have been the one to go. Stewart is younger and to me the better overall RB. Will be a sad day if Stewart gets traded.



Now I don't have any inside information, but what I think happened is the team went to Stewart about signing long term and he declined, so the team then went and offered Williams the deal they did. The team will try again once the upcoming season is over and offer him similar money to what they gave Williams, just back loaded to take advantage of the cap increase in 2014. I still think he ends up signing elsewhere for more money then Williams got though.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:15 PM

Peppers didn't give us an opportunity to trade him because he refused to sign the tender until after the deadline to trade tagged players.


But, they were negotiating with him for almost a year before they used the 1st franchise tag and they offered him a contract that would have made him the highest paid defensive player in the NFL, but Peppers turned it down. So, my point was Hurney knew good and well Peppers didn't want to remain here. So, instead of waiting until you must franchise a player and then the team looses all the leverage, plan ahead, and trade that player, so at least you have something, instead of getting nothing.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:18 PM

But, they were negotiating with him for almost a year before they used the 1st franchise tag and they offered him a contract that would have made him the highest paid defensive player in the NFL, but Peppers turned it down. So, my point was Hurney knew good and well Peppers didn't want to remain here. So, instead of waiting until you must franchise a player and then the team looses all the leverage, plan ahead, and trade that player, so at least you have something, instead of getting nothing.



It doesn't always work like that, the player can decline to sign longterm with the new team. Have NTC contract talk and most teams will get the information that a player doesn't want to play for a team anymore through agents and so forth. So they decide to wait it out and let the player hit FA instead of giving up draft picks plus major money.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:18 PM

Morons.

If the Panthers were not going to entertain offers, they would have said "We are not going to trade Stew." But, they said, "we are not going to make calls" which is Pasquerelli implied is "coach speak" for " what will you give us".

Panthers knew the signing of Tolbert and the parsing of words from Panthers front office should bring in offers, we will see.

I am very happy they dont have their head in the sand as in past seasons. It is about time this organization grew up. Most of you need to grow up and learn that the Panthers winning is more important than your man crush on any one player.

I have been saying Denver and Pittsburgh for a good while. I still think Denver is best and Fox could give us their second for him.
That way, Stew is not unhappy, Panthers get a good second rounder this year rather than a comp pick of 4th round a couple of years from now.

Highly unlikely, but a remote possiblility that Denver could trade for DWill. Doubt it. That, by the way is the only team possible I could see trading for him

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:19 PM

Could be pure speculation, but if it was true it would make sense... Tolbert was signed as Stewart insurance, apparently Stewart has refused to talk extension with us.

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Posted 23 March 2012 - 03:19 PM

I understand all that. Just saying if we trade this guy, its terrible for the team. I love DWill but he should have been the one to go. Stewart is younger and to me the better overall RB. Will be a sad day if Stewart gets traded.


We can debate the DWill contract all day long....and most will say that it was a mistake. However, that ship has sailed.

That being said, it is just going to be nearly impossible to retain Stewart and tie up that much Cap on the RB position. IF (and that is truly an IF) they don't think we can get him signed at the end of this season, we definitely should trade him for what we can get now.