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Looking Forward To Next Years Heels

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This is kinda my thought as well... The handful of times I watched Rivers, he struck me as a bit selfish (or at least something about him just felt that way), and just looked like he'd be a crappy teammate... I have nothing but gut feelings to base that on, of course...

I too wonder how his teammates felt about him, and his game. He was a selfish player in my eyes and I think next year we will be a better TEAM. I wish I could say that I was upset when he declared but I wasn't.

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Now if he could get his game up to a level that deserves a brand, he'll be on track.

I find it funny that some people actually think that WE put too much pressure on him.

I think the media put too much pressure, not most unc fans. I do however feel some unc fans want to dismiss how good he actually was, I mean there are multiple people on this board that feel PJ Hairston is better then Barnes and to me that is ridiculous. Hairston has showed nothing to this point to say he can come close to accomplishing what Barnes did. Next to maybe Zeller, Barnes was the best player on the court for the heels. Stat wise Barnes had an outstanding year but some people expected so much that he couldn't get there. I just can't believe I am taking up for the Black Falcon. :)

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Hairston isn't as good as Barnes...but I think he can put up similar numbers. Barnes wasn't what I thought he'd be...and where did I get these thoughts? Well from him, mostly. Yeah the media hyped him up too, but Barnes wasn't shying away from it. If Barnes had kept his mouth shut about brands and just played, I seriously doubt most people that are dissing him now, would have. Hansbrough was probably the best player we've had (IMO) in the past 20 years...and he never talked about himself, or hyped himself...ever. And yes I know the past 20 years has some good players (Carter, Jamison, Lawson, etc), but Hansbrough was a better college player than any of them.

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Hairston isn't as good as Barnes...but I think he can put up similar numbers. Barnes wasn't what I thought he'd be...and where did I get these thoughts? Well from him, mostly. Yeah the media hyped him up too, but Barnes wasn't shying away from it. If Barnes had kept his mouth shut about brands and just played, I seriously doubt most people that are dissing him now, would have. Hansbrough was probably the best player we've had (IMO) in the past 20 years...and he never talked about himself, or hyped himself...ever. And yes I know the past 20 years has some good players (Carter, Jamison, Lawson, etc), but Hansbrough was a better college player than any of them.

I am just curious why you think that? Barnes averaged 17ppg and 5rpg, which are pretty good numbers and I just don't see an overweight jump shooter putting up those kinds of numbers. Hairston averaged 6ppg and 2rpg and shot 27% from 3, could see him putting up numbers like Bullock but not Barnes.

As far as the Barnes hype I agree he did bring some of it on himself but he did have a the best season for a heel since Hansbrough.

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Good ole Roy probably reported back that JMM wasn't gonna go very high, just like he did with Barnes. He told Barnes that he was likely going to be picked in the 5-7 range, which everyone and their mother knows is moronic. Probably told JMM that he was gonna go after the lottery which is also highly unlikely. But whatever, I guess you do what you gotta do to keep your program from the NIT, even if it is at the expense of a kids future.

lol what? You think barnes is going top 5? You think Roy actually tries to convince guys to stay, even after he told guys like Brandon Wright to go pro?

Your post reeks of ignorance

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lol what? You think barnes is going top 5? You think Roy actually tries to convince guys to stay, even after he told guys like Brandon Wright to go pro?

Your post reeks of ignorance

He would have went 3rd last year but Roy told him he was in the 5-11 range is what Chad Ford of ESPN.com reported on April 1st 2011.

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lol what? You think barnes is going top 5? You think Roy actually tries to convince guys to stay, even after he told guys like Brandon Wright to go pro?

Your post reeks of ignorance

yeah these dookies on here aren't very smart. But that's a common theme w/ duke fans. They are poor, uneducated white trash who think pulling for a white collar yankee school some how elevates their social standing or intelligence.

Just look at the two duke fans on here talking the most ignorant shi1t. They live in Rock Hill, SC and fuging Concord! LOL!!!!

I'd be curious if they have college degrees.

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I am just curious why you think that? Barnes averaged 17ppg and 5rpg, which are pretty good numbers and I just don't see an overweight jump shooter putting up those kinds of numbers. Hairston averaged 6ppg and 2rpg and shot 27% from 3, could see him putting up numbers like Bullock but not Barnes.

As far as the Barnes hype I agree he did bring some of it on himself but he did have a the best season for a heel since Hansbrough.

Well for starters...college players generally make the biggest jump from freshmen to sophomore years. Hairston strikes me as the type of player that has to play a lot to get in the flow of the game. He's a rhythm shooter and he can't get into a rhythm if he's not on the floor much. Hairston's size (weight mostly) will help him grab rebounds. Roy tends to send the wings to the boards which is why Carolina generally outrebounds other teams. We'll see, but I expect a marked improvement in Hairstons' game with more playing time.

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yeah these dookies on here aren't very smart. But that's a common theme w/ duke fans. They are poor, uneducated white trash who think pulling for a white collar yankee school some how elevates their social standing or intelligence.

Just look at the two duke fans on here talking the most ignorant shi1t. They live in Rock Hill, SC and fuging Concord! LOL!!!!

I'd be curious if they have college degrees.

You are right, I completely sound like uneducated white trash. I have given you facts and articles from writers at ESPN to back up what I have posted and you have given us nothing factual. Maybe your little brain doesn't function like normal peoples's and you think just because you say it that it is true, well that is not how it works. I would like you to point out what I have said that is ignorant, but I think you would be hard pressed to do so.

What's your fascination with calling people poor, and white trash? I do have a degree in Econ and my wife went to chapel hill so I know a lot more then you do about this school you pull for because I know for a fact you didn't go there.

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Well for starters...college players generally make the biggest jump from freshmen to sophomore years. Hairston strikes me as the type of player that has to play a lot to get in the flow of the game. He's a rhythm shooter and he can't get into a rhythm if he's not on the floor much. Hairston's size (weight mostly) will help him grab rebounds. Roy tends to send the wings to the boards which is why Carolina generally outrebounds other teams. We'll see, but I expect a marked improvement in Hairstons' game with more playing time.

That would be a hell of a jump, I just have more confidence in Bullock. He is taller and not as fat, he also has a better shot but who knows. I just don't see it in Hairston but I could be wrong.

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I am just curious why you think that? Barnes averaged 17ppg and 5rpg, which are pretty good numbers and I just don't see an overweight jump shooter putting up those kinds of numbers. Hairston averaged 6ppg and 2rpg and shot 27% from 3, could see him putting up numbers like Bullock but not Barnes.

As far as the Barnes hype I agree he did bring some of it on himself but he did have a the best season for a heel since Hansbrough.

See, now I never saw him as overweight... He looked pretty built up, but I never thought he looked fat... I'll give him one thing though, for sure........ Kid can jump out of the gym, and crashes the boards as hard as anyone I saw on the team... He just couldn't throw it in a black hole if he was standing on the edge of it...

I do agree with Stan, though, that I EXPECT significant improvement out of him... Not sure I expect him to put up Barnes' numbers, but I do anticipate marked improvement... Similar to what Bullock was able to do this season...

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See, now I never saw him as overweight... He looked pretty built up, but I never thought he looked fat... I'll give him one thing though, for sure........ Kid can jump out of the gym, and crashes the boards as hard as anyone I saw on the team... He just couldn't throw it in a black hole if he was standing on the edge of it...

I do agree with Stan, though, that I EXPECT significant improvement out of him... Not sure I expect him to put up Barnes' numbers, but I do anticipate marked improvement... Similar to what Bullock was able to do this season...

I was never really impressed with his jumping ability, but Barnes on the other hand had some nasty dunks.

I agree with the statement that his improvement will be similar to Bullock's. There should be improvement but it's not normally a 10 to 12 points per game improvement in one year.

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