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Carolina Panthers NFL Draft Janoris Jenkins

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#31 TylerVagyler

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:25 PM

So, in your opinion, EVERY person who has smoked weed is forever a bad person? Losing a D-1 scholarship, being kicked off your team, and losing the spotlight as a star football player can be a humbling experience that you will never live through. To automatically write him off based on his past is ignorant and you are the dumb one.

Man, you'd think people would learn this when looking at Cam. Yeah, he didn't smoke weed but he was screwing up and did so multiple times, which is why he was kicked off the team. People wrote him off and said he wasn't mature, could never be a leader, and was an arrogant kid with a fake smile and no work ethic despite his coaches and new teammates saying otherwise. Tell me, how correct was that observation?

I'm not saying there is a guarantee that Jenkins has changed. But he should be given the opportunity to come in and talk with JR and Rivera. The kid's talent is unreal and it'd be stupid to write him off without giving him a chance to prove himself.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:35 PM

So, in your opinion, EVERY person who has smoked weed is forever a bad person? Losing a D-1 scholarship, being kicked off your team, and losing the spotlight as a star football player can be a humbling experience that you will never live through. To automatically write him off based on his past is ignorant and you are the dumb one.


If you are at one of the biggest programs in college football, are considered the absolute best player at your position in the nation, are a guaranteed top-10 pick, and have everything going for you where you are and you still choose to do things that risk your career, this raises some red flags. Sure, people can change. But JJ gave a lot away just to light up.

The question is what will he do with all the money, free time, "friends", and spotlight when he is drafted?

#33 TylerVagyler

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:38 PM

If you are at one of the biggest programs in college football, are considered the absolute best player at your position in the nation, are a guaranteed top-10 pick, and have everything going for you where you are and you still choose to do things that risk your career, this raises some red flags. Sure, people can change. But JJ gave a lot away just to light up.

The question is what will he do with all the money, free time, "friends", and spotlight when he is drafted?


In my opinion, the guy thought he was invincible. Like you said, he was the best player on one of the best teams in the country. Had everything handed to him and was basically guaranteed an NFL career. In his mind, he could do whatever he wanted because the team needed him. However, he should know by now that people won't put up with that crap and they will dismiss you from their team. I'd hope that he got a glimpse of reality and saw that everything can be taken away for his mistakes.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:41 PM

In my opinion, the guy thought he was invincible. Like you said, he was the best player on one of the best teams in the country. Had everything handed to him and was basically guaranteed an NFL career. In his mind, he could do whatever he wanted because the team needed him. However, he should know by now that people won't put up with that crap and they will dismiss you from their team. He got a glimpse that everything can be taken away for his mistakes.


I agree. This kind of situation can definitely have that impact on someone. It's just a hard judgment call for an NFL executive to pay someone that much money based on hope that the player has changed. Whoever takes him needs to ask the team leader and the leader on defense to take him under their wing. He needs to be closely monitored for a while.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:49 PM



That last return was my highschool field.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:50 PM

If the risk isn't the talent then you must be hung up on the character concern. So why is the risk worth it just one round below?


Just one round makes all the difference. You see a big dropoff in salary between the #9 overall and the #40 overall picks. You don't spend a Top 10 pick on a guy with character concerns. You need that Top 10 pick to be as sure-fire as possible. Not just on the football field, but in the community, and you don't want this guy getting suspended for off-field issues.
I am sure he won't be the top player on our board at #9.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:56 PM

You don't spend a Top 10 pick on a guy with character concerns.


I hate to keep repeating this, but didn't we have this same debate last year?

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 01:58 PM

You guys make it seem as if we're just going to draft Janoris and hope everything works out by chance. The coaches' main goal is to teach these players football, but if that is all they can teach they're going to be stuck with a bunch of lazy kids that don't understand the significance and the honor of playing in the NFL. There's a lot more to entering the league than learning a playbook. You gotta remember these are all kids. They don't have no jobs. They don't have no responsibility outside of playing glorified high school football and getting good grades in all their classes. They're not going to instantly mature the second they get handed a contract to sign. It's the coaches job to make sure that these kids are prepared physically AND mentally. When you think about it, the maturity of every player in the draft and their potential to advance should be questioned, not just players that have been caught smoking weed. I, for one, have faith in coach Rivera and his staff to be able whip this kid into shape on the field and in his own head.

fun scenario: trade down, get Janoris late in the 1st, get Jerel Worthy in the 2nd, get Super Bowl in the 2nd

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:01 PM

Tell me....What did Jenkins probably say to coaches after his first drug bust? What is he saying now? HINT: The same damn things. If you think going undergound to a FCS (I AA) school cured him enough to invest a high pick on him-you are dumb.

Yes, RR can contol him. Shouldn't Rivera be spending his time doing other things? You folks act like we are running a day care-rehab service. Not worth it. In my experience, people on drugs will lie and let you down. EVERY TIME.


I am dumb because I think going to a Division II team (not FCS like you say) humbles someone. This is the first time I have heard Janoris say, "I'm done with marijuana forever. I can't do it, man."

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:05 PM

we better nail this "top 10" pick ............because it will be our last one for quite so time.

we'll be picking in the 20's from here on out.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:11 PM

I am dumb because I think going to a Division II team (not FCS like you say) humbles someone. This is the first time I have heard Janoris say, "I'm down with marijuana forever. I can't do it, man."


He did not go to a Division II school as a humbing experience....he went there because he would not have to sit out a year. That decision was made solely for his own benefit.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:11 PM

This is the first time I have heard Janoris say, "I'm down with marijuana forever. I can't do it, man."


I do hope he's not down with marijuana forever.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:12 PM

He did not go to a Division II school as a humbing experience....he went there because he would not have to sit out a year. That decision was made solely for his own benefit.


What? I realize why he went there, he wanted to play. But I am saying the aftereffect was an humbling experience.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:13 PM

I do hope he's not down with marijuana forever.


Oops. Edited now. Must have autocorrected or something.

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Posted 27 March 2012 - 02:22 PM

It is when it's the difference between millions of dollars and an NFL career.


Its proven that Money does not make you be a better person or does it help stop drug problems.

He hasn't had a positive test at Northern Alabama and has had no off field issues. People can change. Saying there's no way he can stop smoking weed is just stupid. And let's be real, smoking weed does not make you a bad person. He has done all he can to prove he's changed and has shown maturity since his departure from Florida.


For a kid to fail a Collage drug test the first time he's not too smart or is an addict. Most every school knows when the test or going to happen and have time to prepare there players. Most NFL teams know players smoke weed and many have failed the combine test but there is a difference between recreational use and not being able to stop. Clearly his was of the latter.

I know the circumstances are a little different, but how many people on this board said picking Cam would be a mistake due to his off-field issues? After Cam was dismissed from Florida, he matured and grew as person. And from what I've read, Jenkins has done the same.


Cams situation was totally different and he never had any drug related problems. Comparing him to Cam is like apples to oranges.



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