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Sorenson Wants Wr, Blackmon


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Posted 30 March 2012 - 04:28 PM

I feel like the elite players in this draft not already spoken for (Griffin, Luck) are Kalil, Blackmon, Claiborne, and Richardson. If we land one at 9 or trade up, I'll be happy about the pick (I will be kind of confused if we get Richardson though). They are just better than the rest of the draft.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 04:34 PM

He referenced Hogan in there a couple times as well. Im definitely with him on that, i believe Hogan is gonna be a great player. Thats why im not to worried if we dont some how managed to get Claiborne because i think Hogan will be a solid starter dont know about being a franchise number one corner yet but definitely a solid number 2 playmaker at least.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:23 PM

Even after two years, NFL pundits and experts are talking down about our WR corps. (minus Smitty). Even some people on the Huddle still refer to LaFell as LaFail. LaFell has had TWO years to not only quell this talk, but cement himself as the number two guy, or even the heir apparent number one. He even gave way to None, err Naane, for the Lion's share of the season. That doesn't exactly ring of endorsements. Hogan has been convalescing his restructured knee and hasn't played in a whole football game, but to this day there are still more than a few experts, writers, coaches and fans who believe and/or "Know" that Hogan is an NFL caliber-starting CB. Even if I give LaFell the nod and say that he is less of a question at WR than Hogan is at CB, the fact that LaFell is still a question at all should tell you something.


You seem to be arguing which one of them is better which wasn't the original argument. Right now Lafell is a good number 2/3 WR. That is supported by his play his first two seasons. Hogan having the potential to be a starter doesn't change the fact that he has played in 3 games and is a much bigger mystery than Lafell.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:48 PM

You seem to be arguing which one of them is better which wasn't the original argument. Right now Lafell is a good number 2/3 WR. That is supported by his play his first two seasons. Hogan having the potential to be a starter doesn't change the fact that he has played in 3 games and is a much bigger mystery than Lafell.


My argument was about each guy's potential at their respective positions (and their relevant value in reference to the team, to break it down even further).

Next you'll be telling me that just because Blackmon hasn't played a snap in the NFL and Lafell has two seasons under his belt, than Blackmon is more of a mystery than LaFell at WR. I suppose that Andrew Luck is more of a mystery at QB than Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert or Andy Dalton. College careers do stand for something. Sometimes eyes don't lie.

In any event, it's all just opinion.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 09:35 PM

My argument was about each guy's potential at their respective positions (and their relevant value in reference to the team, to break it down even further).

Next you'll be telling me that just because Blackmon hasn't played a snap in the NFL and Lafell has two seasons under his belt, than Blackmon is more of a mystery than LaFell at WR. I suppose that Andrew Luck is more of a mystery at QB than Jake Locker, Blaine Gabbert or Andy Dalton. College careers do stand for something. Sometimes eyes don't lie.

In any event, it's all just opinion.


Well considering all those things are true. Lafell as I said is a good 2/3 WR. What exactly can you say for a fact about Blackmon besides his potential?

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 10:44 PM

Potential means a lot, especially when it comes to WRs who probably have the least learning curve in reference to transitioning from college to the pros. A beast of a WR in college translates well into the NFL, and even the marginally good ones in college don't bust.
Blackmon is a first round talent. How can you possibly argue anything different? LaFell, so far, has been exactly what he is supposed to be, but not what some hoped that he would be.

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Posted 30 March 2012 - 11:36 PM

Potential means a lot, especially when it comes to WRs who probably have the least learning curve in reference to transitioning from college to the pros. A beast of a WR in college translates well into the NFL, and even the marginally good ones in college don't bust.
Blackmon is a first round talent. How can you possibly argue anything different? LaFell, so far, has been exactly what he is supposed to be, but not what some hoped that he would be.


Where did I argue different? Lafell being exactly what he is supposed to be just proves my point, he isn't a mystery.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 01:04 AM

Wr having the least learning curve are you serious ? How long have you been watching football? Oh and to help you out rb and guards have the least learning curve.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 04:32 AM

Where did I argue different? Lafell being exactly what he is supposed to be just proves my point, he isn't a mystery.


The mystery is whether he has the skill set/upside that would make us roll the dice and pass on Blackmon, if Blackmon were available at number 9. This is where the whole argument really began.

Wr having the least learning curve are you serious ? How long have you been watching football? Oh and to help you out rb and guards have the least learning curve.


OK, whatever you say coach. Run a crisp route, and catch the ball. You know exactly where you are going every time, and sometimes you may even have to worry about a pass rusher, stunts, and everything else that the O-line and RBs have to consume themselves with, lest their QB end up on his ass. Not to mention that at many times, RBs and TEs do great impressions of a WR as well.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 07:19 AM

Of course the Panthers need defense more than they need offense. Because Brandon Hogan, a fourth-round pick out of West Virginia last year, has the talent to start this season opposite Chris Gamble at cornerback, they especially need a defensive tackle and a defensive end.


Im glad someone other than me thinks we dont need another cb with Hogan waiting in the wings

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 05:03 PM

Do you know what a route tree is and how long it takes to learn. Or how you have to be inches with your cuts or going in and out of breaks. Not to mention learning how to get off the line of scrimage beating a zone know all the 100ths of coverages a defense has or even hot reads and audbles. You have to learn before just catching a ball. Do you even watch football?

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 05:08 PM

Do you know what a route tree is and how long it takes to learn. Or how you have to be inches with your cuts or going in and out of breaks. Not to mention learning how to get off the line of scrimage beating a zone know all the 100ths of coverages a defense has or even hot reads and audbles. You have to learn before just catching a ball. Do you even watch football?


Nah, I don't watch it. Didn't play DE or TE when I was a kid either.