Jump to content




Photo
* * - - - 3 votes

Am I Wrong For Thinking...


This topic has been archived. This means that you cannot reply to this topic.
142 replies to this topic

#133 DaCityKats

DaCityKats

    feed KB 2014

  • Joined: 11-March 09
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 9,165
  • Reputation: 1,181
HUDDLER

Posted 03 April 2012 - 10:17 AM

Rushing the passer and blitzing are not the same at all. RUshing the passer usually involves taking on a blocker and beating them physically. Blitzing in usually more about timing and avoiding the blocker so you have a clear lane to the quarterback. Our scheme is more about blitzing from the linebacker spot and less about pass rushing. That is what our DEs and DTs do in a 1 gap attacking style.
And again I think as a second rounder he could be a good choice. The best choice, no....... But no I don't think we need another Applewhite at this point. I would rather get a true DE like Coples if we go that direction rather than a tweener.


they are, but he has done both at a high level. he has blitz from OLB and ILB spots as well as played DE at Boise. i want a true DE but was simply stating that since putting pressure on the QB from the LB spot is important to this scheme why not get a guy who has shown the ability to do so such as McClellin, Kendricks, Brown etc who could be had in the 2nd round. we understand that you are Kuechly fan in all, but some of us are not.

and just cause you are blitzing doesnt mean you wont take on a blocker, probably about 50% of time you do.

#134 panthers55

panthers55

    Starting all over again

  • Joined: 24-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 17,688
  • Reputation: 2,331
HUDDLER

Posted 03 April 2012 - 10:30 AM

they are, but he has done both at a high level. he has blitz from OLB and ILB spots as well as played DE at Boise. i want a true DE but was simply stating that since putting pressure on the QB from the LB spot is important to this scheme why not get a guy who has shown the ability to do so such as McClellin, Kendricks, Brown etc who could be had in the 2nd round. we understand that you are Kuechly fan in all, but some of us are not.

and just cause you are blitzing doesnt mean you wont take on a blocker, probably about 50% of time you do.


I don't really care if you like Kuechly or not because that is all an opinion which varies from person to person. I am more interested in the logic and rationale behind the choice. If the rationale is sound it doesn't matter who you pick, IMO.
I don't think that blitzing and rushing the passer are the same at all and even when you take on a blocker as a blitzer you have the advantage because you are in motion and usually have more distance for an evasive move coming from a 2 point stance. Guys in a three point stance have to attack differently.

As for liking others better than Kuechly, that is again up to you. I don't agree that because a player doesn't blitz for example in college that you should avoid him if he has the athleticism and skill set to be successful. Just like Cam showed that his offensive system didn't keep him from learning complex plays in the NFL or throwing from a pocket, Kuechly will show that he is quite able to blitz and pressure the QB if that is what he needs to do. If we use the same logic last year we would have picked Gabbert over Newton.

#135 pOpCoRnPoPpEr

pOpCoRnPoPpEr

    HUDDLER

  • Joined: 19-March 12
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 1,940
  • Reputation: 15
HUDDLER

Posted 03 April 2012 - 11:48 AM

One way to test your overall knowledge that is fun is to go to Buffalo Wild wings and compete in their trivia challenges they have every day. Until the fourth or fifth beer, I usually score pretty well.


https://www.facebook.com/dialog/oauth?client_id=2558160538&redirect_uri=http%3A%2F%2Fbk.flixster.com%2Fmsk%2Fvar0%2F%3Ffblogin%3Dtrue%26fb_source%3Dnotification%26app_request_type%3Duser_to_user%26ref%3Dnotif%26notif_t%3Dapp_request%26request_ids%3D282869368458873%26signed_request%3DZsIhFoZGq-WJn5_w4q2qckAV8CtFN2Mqm3SlaRk8HlQ.eyJhbGdvcml0aG0iOiJITUFDLVNIQTI1NiIsImlzc3VlZF9hdCI6MTMzMzQ3MTM1MiwidXNlciI6eyJjb3VudHJ5IjoidXMiLCJsb2NhbGUiOiJlbl9VUyIsImFnZSI6eyJtaW4iOjIxfX19&scope=publish_actions,email#!/UltimateTriviaTakedown


Love these!

#136 csx

csx

    Senior Member

  • Joined: 31-December 09
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 8,062
  • Reputation: 2,410
HUDDLER

Posted 03 April 2012 - 02:04 PM

Past Butkus award winners who've failed. But if one succeeded they are all going to succeed right????????


It's not about one, it's most. You should take a look at the list of recent winners. I'm sure you would just see Curry though.

This place is strange in that most people will go out of their way to trash a guy who plays a position they don't want to be chosen in the first round.

I don't want a linebacker with our top pick but that doesn't change anything about his abilities.

#137 Panthro

Panthro

    aka Pablo

  • Joined: 24-November 08
  • posts: 25,809
  • Reputation: 6,975
Moderators

Posted 03 April 2012 - 02:17 PM

It's not about one, it's most. You should take a look at the list of recent winners. I'm sure you would just see Curry though.

This place is strange in that most people will go out of their way to trash a guy who plays a position they don't want to be chosen in the first round.

I don't want a linebacker with our top pick but that doesn't change anything about his abilities.

he should be drafted in the 20-30 range

1995 Kevin Hardy Illinois drafted 2nd 1996 Matt Russell Colorado drafted 130th 1997 Andy Katzenmoyer Ohio Statedrafted 28th 1998 Chris Claiborne USC drafted 9th 1999 LaVar Arrington Penn State drafted 2nd 2000 Dan Morgan Miami drafted 11th 2001 Rocky Calmus Oklahoma drafted 77th 2002 E.J. Henderson Maryland drafted 4oth 2003 Teddy Lehman Oklahoma drafted 37th 2004 Derrick Johnson Texas drafted 15th just now living up to a top 15 pick 2005 Paul Posluszny Penn State Drafted 34th 2006 Patrick Willis Ole Miss drafted 11th 2007 James Laurinaitis Ohio State drafted 35th 2008 Aaron Curry Wake Forestdrafted 4th 2009 Rolando McClain Alabama drafted 8th 2010 Von Miller Texas A&M drafted 2nd - hybrid DE/LB

#138 KendrickPanther

KendrickPanther

    SENIOR HUDDLER

  • Joined: 21-March 12
  • posts: 9,436
  • Reputation: 5,220
SUPPORTER

Posted 03 April 2012 - 02:34 PM

Some of those guys you crossed out have had solid careers....

#139 pOpCoRnPoPpEr

pOpCoRnPoPpEr

    HUDDLER

  • Joined: 19-March 12
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 1,940
  • Reputation: 15
HUDDLER

Posted 03 April 2012 - 02:35 PM

Injuries destroyed LaVar Arrington :(

#140 KendrickPanther

KendrickPanther

    SENIOR HUDDLER

  • Joined: 21-March 12
  • posts: 9,436
  • Reputation: 5,220
SUPPORTER

Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:10 PM

LaVar was a beast I remember that time he dived over the pile down at the goal line and stuffed the ball carrier.

#141 panthers55

panthers55

    Starting all over again

  • Joined: 24-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 17,688
  • Reputation: 2,331
HUDDLER

Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:19 PM

https://www.facebook...eTriviaTakedown


Love these!


looks like a lot of fun. Are you the resident trivia expert on maize.

#142 panthers55

panthers55

    Starting all over again

  • Joined: 24-November 08
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 17,688
  • Reputation: 2,331
HUDDLER

Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:41 PM

he should be drafted in the 20-30 range

1995 Kevin Hardy Illinois drafted 2nd 1996 Matt Russell Colorado drafted 130th 1997 Andy Katzenmoyer Ohio Statedrafted 28th 1998 Chris Claiborne USC drafted 9th 1999 LaVar Arrington Penn State drafted 2nd 2000 Dan Morgan Miami drafted 11th 2001 Rocky Calmus Oklahoma drafted 77th 2002 E.J. Henderson Maryland drafted 4oth 2003 Teddy Lehman Oklahoma drafted 37th 2004 Derrick Johnson Texas drafted 15th just now living up to a top 15 pick 2005 Paul Posluszny Penn State Drafted 34th 2006 Patrick Willis Ole Miss drafted 11th 2007 James Laurinaitis Ohio State drafted 35th 2008 Aaron Curry Wake Forestdrafted 4th 2009 Rolando McClain Alabama drafted 8th 2010 Von Miller Texas A&M drafted 2nd - hybrid DE/LB


Look at the guys chosen in the top 10 and stack up their collegiate numbers to Kuechly's. Other than sacks, his numbers in 3 years were better than the others in 4 years. If he played his senior year he would eclipsed everyone who ever played linebacker in college. He is definitely top 10 worthy.

#143 pOpCoRnPoPpEr

pOpCoRnPoPpEr

    HUDDLER

  • Joined: 19-March 12
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • posts: 1,940
  • Reputation: 15
HUDDLER

Posted 03 April 2012 - 03:57 PM

looks like a lot of fun. Are you the resident trivia expert on maize.


Yeah, that and a lot more useless information ; )