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[ClarkCam]

I just don't want Kuelechy because MLB is a lower value position... If you could tell me with certainty he will pan out to be a leader like Ray Lewis, a tackler like Brian Urlacher, and a beast of a man like Patrick Willis, I would draft him. However, I still have faith in Beason to come back, and believe that Ingram would better fill our need and is similiar to Kuechly in talent. They do have varying talents, but Ingram's talent is what we need. Pass rushing ability which he showed in college. Kuechly, however, is not a natural pass rusher and has often been criticized for downfield tackling (I have not watched him play much so I do not know how true this is). So Ingram or Coples over Kuechly.

[Kevin Greene]

I'd love for him to do that on another team. Missing on a franchise QB is a helluva a lot different than reaching for a 4-3 LB in the Top 10.

Playing Devil's advocate here.
We're not talking the #1 overall pick but rather #9.
Who's opinion do you feel Kuechly would be a reach on, your own?
Scout, Walter Football, Draftek and the like all have Kuechly above or right at our draft position.
I probably shouldn't even have posted in this thread the way it started and don't prefer we go LB 1st round but meh.

[megadeth078]

You mean like his freshmen year in college when he played OLB and was second in the nation in tackles. Seriously are you going for a reaction or are you trying out for a part as George Jefferson in a remake of the TV show??

Any white linebacker can get tackles. I was asking if he can cover tight ends and rush the passer.

You're assuming Beason will be back 90-100% back by the start of the season then?

Not, but that's what James Anderson is for.

[Kevin Greene]

Also, there aren't that many good white anything in the NFL is there?
The NFL is dominated by superior black football players isn't it?
I believe it's something like 67% Black versus 31% white Players in the NFL currently.
Saying white football players aren't as good as black football players percentage wise is proved every day when you look at the US population and the numbers of caucasion versus blacks and then compare that to the inverse percentages in the NFL. Now maybe there might be one white better than one black or vice versa at a given position a given year but who cares?

[MechaZain]

It's dumb how people can only seem to compare athletes in the same race. Cam is more Roethlisberger than Vick.

Is there some special training camp white players go to over the summer?

[rodeo]

LB is just about the only position on defense that white dudes can play.

[megadeth078]

ILB is just about the only position on defense that white dudes can play.

fixed

[rodeo]

lol truth

[Proudiddy]

Clay Matthews? Barwin? Brooks Reed? Jarrett Johnson?

[ClarkCam]

This whole racist thing is just stupid.... As the guy said earlier the league is predominantly black. By not admitting that there are more athletic African Americans playing football, that's just wrong numerically.... However, to say Kuechly is not going to be good because he is white is a little confusing. Because I think there are good white players at just about every position. However, I used to look at a white receiver and think "He wishes he could play". Wes Welker, Jordy Nelson, along with others have broken that perception.

[megadeth078]

[X-Clown]

Clay Matthews? Barwin? Brooks Reed? Jarrett Johnson?

Jared Allen, Justin Smith, JJ Watt, Aaron Smith, Brett Keisel, Kelly Gregg, Eric Weddle, Jim Leonhard, Tom Zbikowski

[thefuzz]

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Clay Matthews?

[panthers55]

So what does that say about your opinions?

If they are not backed up with facts stats or other expert opinions then they are just my opinion, nothing more.

[megadeth078]

If they are not backed up with facts stats or other expert opinions then they are just my opinion, nothing more.

You are implying that expert opinions are as good as facts. Just giving you a heads up....