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#601 rippadonn

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 01:31 PM

It's time to clean up our own backyard. We are no longer the moral standard bearers in the world when it is becoming far too obvious that this once great society has been taken over by corrupt, hateful and dangerous shadow groups who care nothing about our country only profit and control. What is sad is that Americans would join in the destruction of their own country just as long as you keep the paycheck coming. What good is money when everything around you is crumbling? Common decency has taken a backseat to more and more profit. It was a Trojan Horse and greed took the bait. Now what people?

When will conscience take over? Are we too late? There may be evil conspiracies but thank goodness there are good conspiracies that are working to free the world. Which side are you on? It starts with the man in the mirror.


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Posted 27 October 2012 - 04:43 PM

It's time to clean up our own backyard. We are no longer the moral standard bearers in the world when it is becoming far too obvious that this once great society has been taken over by corrupt, hateful and dangerous shadow groups who care nothing about our country only profit and control. What is sad is that Americans would join in the destruction of their own country just as long as you keep the paycheck coming. What good is money when everything around you is crumbling? Common decency has taken a backseat to more and more profit. It was a Trojan Horse and greed took the bait. Now what people?

When will conscience take over? Are we too late? There may be evil conspiracies but thank goodness there are good conspiracies that are working to free the world. Which side are you on? It starts with the man in the mirror.


People have been profit-hungry and greedy since they first crawled out of the cave. If greed and selfishness were going to destroy man, they would've destroyed him long ago.

Why do you think we bother waking up every morning? Anything we do in this life is made moot when the grim reaper comes to harvest his fruit. Even if we only work for the short-term, we trade one set of problems for another. The discomforts and inconveniences of today are replaced with bigger, more burdensome problems as we climb the socioeconomic ladder.

None of this matters because, regardless of the nihilistic futility of it all, nothing can sate man's inherently limitless energy. We are a naturally restless, determined, and hard-nosed animal. When we lose a job, we find another. When we lose a lover or spouse, we find another. When we suffer a setback, we pick ourselves up off the ground and get back on the trail. Even when life is good and we're feeling fulfilled, we keep finding new things to do, new discomforts and burdens to take on our shoulders.

We aren't being destroyed by our greed. Greed is the only thing keeping us alive. No matter how hard life gets, no matter how many things change, our restlessness and energy remain our only constants. They're the only things that allow us to remain dominant in a universe full of things bigger, deadlier, and more unstoppable than us.

So, what is the problem? No one agrees on that. But whatever it is, it's certainly not an overabundance of greed and insatiable hunger for profit.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 07:15 PM

People have been profit-hungry and greedy since they first crawled out of the cave. If greed and selfishness were going to destroy man, they would've destroyed him long ago.



Greed and hunger for power may yet destroy us. We have managed to avoid it, but if another world war happens in a desire for more power (or as the Nazi's called it, living space), we could well come close to destroying ourselves.

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Posted 27 October 2012 - 07:36 PM

No offense Venom...but your posts make me want to take my wife and kids inside a bunker, and aim my weapons toward the entrance.

Intriguing nonetheless and gets me thinking. I've also thought about prepping for doomsday. Seriously.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 02:57 AM

No offense Venom...but your posts make me want to take my wife and kids inside a bunker, and aim my weapons toward the entrance.

Intriguing nonetheless and gets me thinking. I've also thought about prepping for doomsday. Seriously.


Haha well if it makes you feel any better, I am a firm believer that everything will be ok.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:00 AM

Royal Bank Subpoenaed in LIBOR Probe

There are reports that Royal Bank of Canada has been served with a subpoena from U.S. state officials as part of their probe into the possible manipulation of a key benchmark used to set interest rates.

The Wall Street Journal and other business publication report the subpoenas were issued to nine banks, including RBC, in August and September, according to an unidentified person familiar with the investigation.

That brings to 16 the number of banks served with subpoenas, including seven that had become public earlier.

Global investigation

The U.S. investigation by the New York and Connecticut attorneys general is part of a wider probe in several countries that stems from a major U.K. bank's admission that it had provided false information used to set the LIBOR rate.

RBC is Canada's largest bank, with operations in major financial centres around the world including London.

The bank said last summer that it followed the rules in submitting information for compiling the London Interbank Offered Rate, which is used widely as a benchmark to set interest rates on business and consumer debts.

That assurance was repeated Friday in RBC's response to the news reports.

"We have determined that our Libor submissions reflected our cost of funds," said Gillian McArdle, head of communications for Canada at RBC Capital Markets.

Rate-fixing alleged

The rate is set by gathering information from a small number of large banks, using a system that's intended to prevent any one member of the group from manipulating the rate.

Questions about how LIBOR is operated arose after Barclays Bank agreed to pay a record $450 million fine to settle allegations its traders had manipulated submissions to LIBOR.

Canada's competition bureau and other Canadian regulatory bodies launched their own probes in light of the Barclay's revelations but there have been no allegations levelled against RBC.



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Posted 28 October 2012 - 03:37 AM

$43 Trillion Lawsuit Defendant List:

INDIVIDUAL DEFENDANTS:
  • ROBERT BAUER, an individual - Chief Legal Counsel for the Obama Re-election Campaign
  • JEREMY BEN-AMI, an individual
  • DAVID BROCK, an individual,
  • MICHAEL BROSNAN, an individual
  • JON CORZINE, an individual - former New Jersey Governor and CEO of MF Global
  • JOSEPH CRUDO, SR., an individual
  • JOSEPH CRUDO, JR, an individual
  • HOWARD DICKSTEIN, an individual
  • SCOTT DREXEL, an individual
  • ANITA DUNN, an individual - former White House Communications Director
  • JOSEPH DUNN, an individual
  • JENNINE ENGLISH, an individual
  • JERRY FALK, an individual
  • TIMOTHY GEITHNER, an individual – United States Treasury Secretary
  • ERIC GEORGE, an individual
  • THOMAS V. GIRARDI, an individual
  • KAMALA HARRIS, an individualCalifornia Attorney General
  • MYA HARRIS-WEST, an individual
  • ERIC HOLDER, an individual – United States Attorney General
  • JOHN HOONEN, an individual
  • JEFFREY HUVELLE, an individual
  • VALERIE JARRETT, an individual – Senior White House Advisor
  • PETER KRAUSE, an individual
  • WALTER LACK, an individual
  • THOMAS LAYTON, an individual
  • DANIELLE LEE, an individual
  • KENNETH LEWIS, an individual
  • HOWARD MILLER, an individual
  • DAVID J. PASTERNAK, an individual
  • VIKRAM PANDIT, an individual – recently resigned Chairman of the Board of Citigroup
  • MARY ROBERTS, an individual
  • ALAN ROTHENBERG, an individual
  • ALAN I. ROTHENBERG, an individual
  • ROBERT RUBIN, an individual – former United States Secretary of the Treasury
  • SANDOR SAMUELS, an individual
  • TODD TORR, an individual
  • WILLIAM WARDLAW, an individual
  • ANTHONY WEST, an individual - United States Assistant Attorney General
  • DOUGLAS WINTHROP, an individual

    GOVERNMENT ENTITIES:
  • UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, as an involuntary plaintiff
  • THE STATE OF NEW YORK, as an involuntary plaintiff

    CORPORATE ENTITIES:
  • 1ST CENTURY BANK aka FIRST CENTURY BANK, an entity form unknown
  • ABA SEGUROS, S.A. DE C.V.
  • ALLY BANK, N.A., in its own capacity and as an acquirer of certain assets and liabilities OF GMAC
  • ALLY CREDIT CANADA LIMITED
  • ALLY INTERNATIONAL INSURANCE COMPANY, LTD.
  • ATACAMA MULTIMERCADO – FUNDO DE INVESTIMENTO
  • AURORA BANK, F.S.B.
  • BANC OF AMERICA SECURITIES LLC
  • BANCAMERICA ROBERTSON STEPHENS
  • BANCO CITIBANK DE GUATEMALA, S.A.
  • BANCO CITIBANK S.A.
  • BANCO CITICARD S.A.
  • BANCO GMAC S.A.
  • BANCO J.P. MORGAN S.A.
  • BANK BOSTON
  • BANK HANDLOWY W WARSZAWIE S.A.
  • BANK OF AMERICA (Asia)
  • BANK OF AMERICA (Macau)
  • BANK OF AMERICA CANADA
  • BANK OF AMERICA CORPORATION
  • BANK OF AMERICA, N.A.
  • BEAR STEARNS INTERNATIONAL FUNDING I S.A R.L.
  • CAPITAL II, COUNTRYWIDE CAPITAL III
  • CHASE HOME FINANCE, LLC
  • CHELSEA PARTICIPACOES SOCIETARIAS E INVESTIMENTOS LTDA.
  • CHINA CONSTRUCTION BANK (Asia) CORPORATION LIMITED
  • CHINA CONSTRUCTION BANK (Macau)
  • CHINA CONSTRUCTION BANK (Macau)
  • CITI OVERSEAS INVESTMENTS BAHAMAS INC.
  • CITIBANK – DISTRIBUIDORA DE TITULOS E VALORES MOBILIARIOS S.A.
  • CITIBANK (HONG KONG) LIMITED
  • CITIBANK BERHAD
  • CITIBANK CARTOES PARTICIPACOES LTDA.
  • CITIBANK CORRETORA DE SEGUROS LTDA.
  • CITIBANK DEL PERU S.A.
  • CITIBANK HOLDINGS IRELAND LIMITED
  • CITIBANK MAGHREB
  • CITIBANK MALAYSIA (L) LIMITED
  • CITIBANK MEDIADOR
  • CITIBANK, N.A.
  • CITICORP CAPITAL PHILIPPINES, INC.
  • CITICORP FINANCE (INDIA) LIMITED
  • CITIFINANCIAL
  • CITIGROUP ASIA PACIFIC HOLDING CORPORATION
  • CITIGROUP GLOBAL MARKETS
  • CITIGROUP GLOBAL MARKETS COMMERCIAL CORP
  • CITIGROUP GLOBAL MARKETS INDIA PRIVATE LIMITED
  • CITIGROUP GLOBAL MARKETS LUXEMBOURG
  • CITIGROUP GLOBAL MARKETS
  • CITIGROUP GLOBAL MARKETS, SINGAPORE PTE. LTD.
  • CITIGROUP GLOBAL MARKETS, HOLDINGS LIMITED
  • CITIGROUP GLOBAL MARKETS, HOLDINGS PTE. LTD
  • CITIGROUP HOLDING (SINGAPORE) PRIVATE LIMITED
  • CITIGROUP NETHERLANDS HOLDINGS B.V.
  • CITIGROUP, INC.
  • COHM OVERSEAS MEXICO HOLDING, S. DE R.L. DE C.V.
  • CORPORATION & CO. BESCHRANKT HAFTENDE KG
  • COUNTRYWIDE ALTERNATIVE ASSET MANAGEMENT
  • COUNTRYWIDE ALTERNATIVE INVESTMENTS
  • COUNTRYWIDE CAPITAL I, COUNTRYWIDE
  • COUNTRYWIDE CAPITAL IV
  • COUNTRYWIDE CAPITAL IX
  • COUNTRYWIDE CAPITAL MARKETS ASIA (HK) LIMITED
  • COUNTRYWIDE CAPITAL MARKETS
  • COUNTRYWIDE CAPITAL V
  • COUNTRYWIDE CAPITAL VI
  • COUNTRYWIDE CAPITAL VII
  • COUNTRYWIDE CAPITAL VIII
  • COUNTRYWIDE COMMERCIAL JPI LLC
  • COUNTRYWIDE COMMERCIAL MORTGAGE CAPITAL
  • COUNTRYWIDE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE FINANCE
  • COUNTRYWIDE FINANCIAL CORPORATION, dba BAC HOME LOANS
  • COUNTRYWIDE HILLCREST
  • COUNTRYWIDE INTERNATIONAL GP HOLDINGS
  • COUNTRYWIDE INTERNATIONAL TECHNOLOGY HOLDINGS LIMITED
  • COUNTRYWIDE MANAGEMENT CORPORATION
  • COUNTRYWIDE MORTGAGE VENTURES, LLC
  • COUNTRYWIDE WAREHOUSE LENDING
  • CWABS II, INC.
  • CWALT, INC.
  • CYRUS ACCESS, LTD., DIVERSIFIED ALPHA FUND MASTER), LTD.
  • DANUBE HOLDINGS I C.V.
  • DANUBE HOLDINGS III C.V.
  • DEUTSCHE BANK AG
  • DEUTSCHE BANK NATIONAL TRUST COMPANY
  • DEUTSCHLAND AG
  • DISTRIBUIDORA DE TITULOS E VALORES MOBILIARIOS
  • ELAVON DO BRASIL SOLUCOES DE PAGAMENTO S.A.
  • ELAVON EUROPEAN HOLDINGS B.V.
  • ELAVON EUROPEAN HOLDINGS C.V.
  • ELAVON FINANCIAL SERVICES LIMITED
  • ELAVON MERCHANT SERVICES MEXICO, S. DE R.L. DE C.V.
  • ELAVON MEXICO HOLDING COMPANY, S.A. DE C.V.
  • ELAVON OPERATIONS COMPANY, S. DE R.I. DE C.V.
  • ELAVON PUERTO RICO, INC.
  • ELAVON SERVICES COMPANY, S. DE R.I. DE C.V.
  • EMC CORPORATION
  • EMC MORTGAGE CORPORATION
  • EUROPEAN CREDIT FUND SICAV II
  • EVERGREEN ECM HOLDINGS B.V.
  • FII SINGAPORE PRIVATE LIMITED
  • FINANCIAL CORPORATION
  • FIRST CENTURY BANKSHARES, INC., a Delaware corporation
  • GAVEA INVESTIMENTOS LTDA.
  • GENERAL MOTORS ACCEPTANCE
  • GMAC BANK GMBH
  • GMAC CYPRESS HOLDINGS LIMITED
  • GMAC GERMANY GMBH & CO. KG
  • GMAC HOLDINGS GMBH
  • GMAC HOLDINGS U.K. LIMITED, GMAC UK PLC
  • GMAC INTERNATIONAL FINANCE B.V.
  • GMAC INTERNATIONAL HOLDINGS B.V.
  • GOLDEN FUNDING COMPANY
  • HALCYON ACCESS, LTD.
  • HENRY BATH BV
  • HSBC HOLDINGS, INC.
  • INDOPARK HOLDINGS, LTD.
  • ING GROUP
  • INSTITUCION DE BANCA MULTIPLE
  • INVESTMENTS 2234 PHILIPPINES FUND I (SPV-AMC), INC.
  • ISLAND FINANCE HOLDING COMPANY, LLC
  • J STREET, INC., an entity form unknown
  • J.P. MORGAN ASSET MANAGEMENT HOLDINGS (LUXEMBOURG) S.A R.L.
  • J.P. MORGAN ASSET MANAGEMENT LUXEMBOURG S.A.
  • J.P. MORGAN BANK LUXEMBOURG S.A.
  • J.P. MORGAN CHASE BANK (CHINA) COMPANY LIMITED CHINA
  • J.P. MORGAN CHASE CUSTODY SERVICES, INC.
  • J.P. MORGAN DISTRESSED DEBT MASTER FUND LTD.
  • J.P. MORGAN DUBLIN FINANCIAL HOLDINGS LIMITED
  • J.P. MORGAN GREATER CHINA PROPERTY FUND CAYMAN SLP LP
  • J.P. MORGAN GRUPO FINANCIERO
  • J.P. MORGAN INTERNATIONAL HOLDINGS LIMITED
  • J.P. MORGAN MANSART INVESTMENTS
  • J.P. MORGAN CHASE BANK, N.A., in its own capacity and as acquirer of certain assets and liabiliities of Washington Mutual Bank
  • J.P. MORGAN PCA HOLDINGS (MAURITIUS) I LIMITED
  • J.P. MORGAN RESEARCH TOTAL RETURN MASTER FUND LTD
  • J.P. MORGAN S.A.
  • J.P. MORGAN SERVICES INDIA PRIVATE LIMITED
  • J.P. MORGAN FINANCE JAPAN YK
  • JORDAN INVESTMENTS LP UK
  • KLEIN BANK
  • LATIN AMERICAN INVESTMENT BANK BAHAMAS LIMITED
  • MBNA AMERICA BANK
  • MEDIA MATTERS, a corporation form unknown
  • MERRILL LYNCH
  • MERRILL LYNCH, PIERCE, FENNER & SMITH INCORPORATED
  • ML BANDERIA CAYMAN BRL INC.
  • ML WHITBY LUXEMBOURG S.A.R.L.
  • Mutual Bank
  • NATIONAL ASSOCIATION
  • NATIONAL ASSOCIATION
  • NATIONAL ASSOCIATION, FIA CARD SERVICES
  • NATIONAL ASSOCIATION, FIA CARD SERVICES
  • NEWEST BANK, F.S.B.
  • NORWEST VENTURE PARTNERS
  • NORWEST VENTURE PARTNERS FVCI SINGAPORE PRIVATE LIMITED
  • NORWEST VENTURE PARTNERS SINGAPORE PRIVATE LIMITED
  • NORWEST VENTURE PARTNERS VI, LP
  • NORWEST VENTURE PARTNERS VI-A, LP
  • NORWEST VENTURE PARTNERS VII, LP
  • NORWEST VENTURE PARTNERS VII-A FII MAURITIUS
  • NORWEST VENTURE PARTNERS VII-A FVCI MAURITIUS
  • NORWEST VENTURE PARTNERS VII-A MAURITIUS
  • OCWEN
  • ONE EQUITY PARTNERS II, L.P.
  • ONE EQUITY PARTNERS III, L.P.
  • ONE EQUITY PARTNERS IV, L.P.
  • ONE EQUITY PARTNERS LLC
  • OPERADOR DE BANCA – SEGUROS VINCULADO
  • OVERLAND RELATIVE VALUE FUND LTD
  • OVERLAND RELATIVE VALUE MASTER FUND LP
  • PARTNERSHIP INVESTMENTS S.A.R.L., CITIBANK (CHINA) CO., LTD.
  • PNC BANK, N.A.
  • PROMOTORA DE NEGOCIOS & COBRANCA LTDA.
  • RED OAK MERGER CORPORATION
  • RESMOR CAPITAL CORPORATION
  • RESMOR TRUST COMPANY
  • SAPOTORO COOPERATIEF U.A.
  • SERVICING,COUNTRYWIDE HOME LOANS, INC.
  • SOCIEDAD ANONIMA
  • U.S. BANCORP
  • U.S. BANK TRUST COMPANY
  • U.S. BANK TRUST NATIONAL ASSOCIATION
  • U.S. BANK, N.A.
  • U.S. TRUST CORPORATION
  • USB NETHERLANDS B.V.
  • USB REALTY CORP.
  • USB TRADE SERVICES LIMITED
  • WACHOVIA BANK
  • WELLS FARGO & COMPANY
  • WELLS FARGO BANK, N.A.
  • ZAO CITIBANK
  • ZEUS RECOVERY FUND, S.A.

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Posted 28 October 2012 - 10:47 PM

i'm just glad i have not been asked to testify or anything.

i just want to add this as food for thought. while we dog each other here on just about anything you will be surprise who may troll a message board for additional insights. would not shock me in the least if some of all that has come out from the banks were info cobbled together by various message boards. i know that i have read some very eye opening things on just cnbc alone for years now that i have followed up on my own for more insight. many times it was just someone stating what their broker may have said or a deal they got etc and i know enough about the industry to know where that may have come from.

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Posted 01 November 2012 - 03:57 PM

Barclays Faces Record £290m Penalty: British Bank Suffers Another Hit to its Battered Reputation as it Confronts Huge Costs for Alleged US Energy Market Manipulation

Barclays faces record £290m penalty

Jill Treanor, city editor
The Guardian, Wednesday 31 October 2012

Barclays bank has endured a torrid year having been caught up in a number of financial scandals.

Barclays took another major hit to its already bruised reputation last night when a US regulator threatened the bank with a record $470m (£290m) penalty for allegations that it attempted to manipulate the US electricity market.

After the London market had closed, the Federal Energy Regulatory Commission announced the scale of the fine – $435m, plus a $35m order to disgorge alleged profits made by the bank – for the alleged offences which are supposed to have taken place between 2006 and 2008.

Barclays had warned earlier in the day that it faced a potential penalty for the alleged movement of Californian electricity prices when it reported that it had made a loss in the third quarter of 2008.

The bank's new chief executive, Antony Jenkins, said the bank would defend any proposed penalty by the regulator, which has given the bank 30 days to respond and prove why it should not be fined.

The Washington-based regulator is also proposing fines on four individuals who worked for Barclays at the time. In April the Ferc had warned it was investigating the bank and the four individuals for allegedly buying and selling electricity in big enough quantities to affect the price of complex derivative positions.

The four traders – Daniel Brin, Scott Connelly, Karen Levine and Ryan Smith – also have 30 days to prove why they should not face civil penalties after the regulator said the actions had led to losses of around $140m for California and other US states.

The regulator, given extra powers after the Enron trading scandal, alleged that traders had "propped up" the market.

The fresh embarrassment for Barclays comes barely three months after Bob Diamond resigned as chief executive in the wake of another record fine, this time for manipulation of the key benchmark interest rate, Libor.

The allegations from the Ferc, which shed some light on the complexities of energy trading, single out four locations – Columbia, Palo Verde, South Path 15 and North Path 15 – that were said to have seen transactions that benefited the bank's positions on the IntercontinentalExchange.

Unlike the Libor case where Barclays agreed to settle the allegations, the bank now appears to be preparing to put a case in the show-cause order issued late last night. If the fine is imposed by the regulator, it would be the largest it has ever levied, and be regarded as evidence that the Ferc is attempting to get tough on attempts to manipulate energy prices. Other banks facing penalties include JP Morgan and Deutsche Bank.

The order does not put Barclays side of the argument but accuses the bank of a "coordinated scheme" to manipulate prices in electricity prices and comes as the bank's new chairman Sir David Walker takes over the key boardroom role today.



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Posted 01 November 2012 - 04:15 PM

People have been profit-hungry and greedy since they first crawled out of the cave. If greed and selfishness were going to destroy man, they would've destroyed him long ago.

Why do you think we bother waking up every morning? Anything we do in this life is made moot when the grim reaper comes to harvest his fruit. Even if we only work for the short-term, we trade one set of problems for another. The discomforts and inconveniences of today are replaced with bigger, more burdensome problems as we climb the socioeconomic ladder.

None of this matters because, regardless of the nihilistic futility of it all, nothing can sate man's inherently limitless energy. We are a naturally restless, determined, and hard-nosed animal. When we lose a job, we find another. When we lose a lover or spouse, we find another. When we suffer a setback, we pick ourselves up off the ground and get back on the trail. Even when life is good and we're feeling fulfilled, we keep finding new things to do, new discomforts and burdens to take on our shoulders.

We aren't being destroyed by our greed. Greed is the only thing keeping us alive. No matter how hard life gets, no matter how many things change, our restlessness and energy remain our only constants. They're the only things that allow us to remain dominant in a universe full of things bigger, deadlier, and more unstoppable than us.

So, what is the problem? No one agrees on that. But whatever it is, it's certainly not an overabundance of greed and insatiable hunger for profit.


ladies and gentlemen: social darwinism.


greed≠survival instinct

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:46 PM

ladies and gentlemen: social darwinism.


greed≠survival instinct


From typing "define: greed" in Google:

"Intense and selfish desire for something, esp. wealth, power, or food."

Sounds a lot like what I was talking about to me.

So this presents quite the conundrum. Greed is evil, but man is instinctively greedy; therefore, man is instinctively evil.

What hope is there for an instinctively evil animal? Even if he tries to overcome his immoral baseness, he can only do so through "intense and selfish desire" for righteousness, not on a whim.

Therefore, life is either meaningless, or destructive. You guys have admitted as much. Why do you insist on trudging on in this greedy, savage world?

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Posted 02 November 2012 - 11:51 PM

lol king is literally an animal

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 02:23 AM

lol king is literally an animal


Sick burn.

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 02:29 AM

not a burn

just an observation

anyway what is it like to live with asperger's?

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Posted 03 November 2012 - 02:36 AM

not a burn

just an observation

anyway what is it like to live with asperger's?


Oh my.

Keep 'em comin', sweetheart.


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