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Coples Vs. Derrick Harvey (08' Draft Bust)


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#25 amcoolio

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:49 AM

Its a total crapshoot when it comes to DE's. And since Coples shows nothing extraordinary, we should not draft him. Unless he falls to the 2nd round, then he is maybe worth a shot. But I would be livid if we drafted him 9th. He wouldn't be any better than Hardy is for the next couple of years. It'd be a total waste.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 01:36 AM

and one can make plays and one couldn't. No comparison.


Coples is very comparable to Harvey and Jamaal Anderson.
The point of the comparison is just to show that the lack of work ethic and determination is a big deal..

"Hard work beats talent when talent doesn't work hard"


I think you missed my point. I was basically laughing at you.

But.. in all seriousness, really, I do see where you are coming from. You are comparing their work either more so than their size, ext.

We shall see, I guess.

#27 MadHatter

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 06:07 AM

You can look at anyone in the draft and find someone with similar characteristics who ended up being a bust. It doesn't mean that the guy we pick will be a bust or that we shouldn't draft him. Threads like this are a total waste if the intent is to convince the masses whether we should draft him or not.


this.....the OP's comparison is laughable at best.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:43 AM

I see what the OP is getting at as well, and I also understand the counter argument that you can find anyone comparable and label them a bust.

But anyone saying it's 'laughable' or foolish in some way to make comparisons has a stick up their ass.

It's done all the damn time in the NFL in scouting, acting like this is a completely invalid opinion is asinine.

Just for the record, what is it about Coples that you guys like? Where is your much more enlightened perspective on him as a prospect? Oh that's right, you know as much as any of us know. You just like to act like you know more when half of you idiots wanted nothing to do with Cam and wanted to trade 89 just a year ago.

I hate fugers who come into a thread a type out one bullshit line about how an OPs point is garbage. It's the same douchebags doing it every time too.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:50 AM

I see what the OP is getting at as well, and I also understand the counter argument that you can find anyone comparable and label them a bust.

But anyone saying it's 'laughable' or foolish in some way to make comparisons has a stick up their ass.

It's done all the damn time in the NFL in scouting, acting like this is a completely invalid opinion is asinine.

Just for the record, what is it about Coples that you guys like? Where is your much more enlightened perspective on him as a prospect? Oh that's right, you know as much as any of us know. You just like to act like you know more when half of you idiots wanted nothing to do with Cam and wanted to trade 89 just a year ago.

I hate fugers who come into a thread a type out one bullshit line about how an OPs point is garbage. It's the same douchebags doing it every time too.


I mean it is laughable becasue fo revery comparison you want to make showing bust....I can make one showing success.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:21 AM

Im not even gonna try to shoot down or propell any prospect this year cuz i was so wrong about Cam last year. I have my thoughts but im keeping them to myself until they are proven false or true.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:22 AM

Ooohhhhh let's compare two completely different guys with nothing alike that play the same position.


And there is no anti-UNC bias there grits ;)

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:33 AM

You are an idiot...Neither Anderson or Harvey ever played inside the way Coples can...Their both smaler and slower, Coples measurables are more comparable to Peppers and thats not just because he's number 90 from UNC. Go look it up or look at my article before about Coples.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:36 AM

Is this a better Apples To Apples comparison?JAMAAL ANDERSON or yet another DE with the title..freakish athlete

Jamaal Anderson DE 6'5 288 Arkansas Jr. 4.75
By: Robert Davis
Anderson is a former wide receiver that made a smooth transition to defensive end. As a freshman reserve, he was in on 18 tackles. As a sophomore, he was in the rotation, and started the last five games of the year after an injury, and he has taken off from that point. He had 47 tackles, 10.5 for loss, and four sacks that season. Anderson blew up as a junior, finishing with 65 tackles, 19.5 for loss, and 13.5 sacks.

Jamaal Anderson is an absolute freak physically. Not only is he an excellent athlete, with great quickness and agility, but he has great size as well. He is a difference maker off the edge as a pass rusher. He dominated as a junior, and still has a ton of untapped potential. He could be an all around force at the next level.

Anderson is still adjusting to playing in the trenches, and is still a work in progress. He has been able to get by on his tremendous physical ability, but he will not be able to rely on that alone in the NFL. He declared after his junior year, only having about a season and a half of starting experience under his belt.

Anderson has the size and talent that will draw comparisons to Mario Williams and Julius Peppers, and he carries a great deal of upside at the next level. He had a solid showing in the post season, but probably not enough to overtake Gaines Adams as the top end in the draft. His upside is amazing, and he could make teams that do not select him regret it in the future.

Last paragraph is errie...and Coples has less stats...in the ACC.

*I do however think that Coples will be slightly better that Gaines Adams....for obvious reasons....

Jamarcus and Cam were never comparable btw.....


Vince Young sure as fug was

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:37 AM

He had 8.5 sacks as a DT in 2010...

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 11:08 AM

People were comparing Harvey was going to be the next Pep just like they are doing with Coples.