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#1 koolkatluke

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Posted 10 April 2012 - 11:04 PM

I said that Blackmon while being a good Wr wasn't a elite talent like AJ green and Julio Jones.

Now here is a video of NFLN talking about the same thing. The wr that Blackmon is comp. to were taking later in the 1st round. Him and Floyd are just lucky to come out in a year where there is no elite talent (with production in college) coming out this year but a lot of team in the top 15 need WR.


http://www.nfl.com/v...vs-2011-WR-crop

http://www.nfl.com/v...vs-2011-WR-crop

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:00 AM

Oh, now you want to summon the voices of the talking heads...?


I don't believe anyone has ever said that the guy was on the level of a AJ Green [Go Dawgs!] or Julio Jones...not that anyone knows. But he is solid at his position and will probably only help the team that drafts him. It's like someone told you before, the problem is that there is really no so-called "elite" talent at any of the positions that we need (IMHO). But, why are you still talking about this? We won't get a chance to draft Blackmon because he'll be off the boards.

I hope that Hurney and company take an open-minded, wait-and-see approach to the draft. If the opportunity presents itself to trade down, that my be the best play, but if we draft at number nine, then I hope that we draft the BPA. If the FO deems that that is Blackmon, then so be it.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:09 AM

I'd argue that Floyd and blackmon are both lucky that the top 15 aren't as strong as most classes. Once ya get past the top two qbs and top tackle, the remaining top players aren't as good as other drafts.

Thank God for a rookie wage scale.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 12:24 AM

It has become a popular thing now to question Blackmon, almost to the point that he is getting underrated. I said last year before the draft that Blackmon would go in between Green and Jones. That was just my opinion last year and Blackmon didn't do anything this past season that changed my mind.

I will agree that AJ Green is a separate league than Blackmon and Jones. I just happen to like Blackmon better. But that's just my opinion from what I have watched.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 02:03 AM

Oh, now you want to summon the voices of the talking heads...?


I don't believe anyone has ever said that the guy was on the level of a AJ Green [Go Dawgs!] or Julio Jones...not that anyone knows. But he is solid at his position and will probably only help the team that drafts him. It's like someone told you before, the problem is that there is really no so-called "elite" talent at any of the positions that we need (IMHO). But, why are you still talking about this? We won't get a chance to draft Blackmon because he'll be off the boards.

I hope that Hurney and company take an open-minded, wait-and-see approach to the draft. If the opportunity presents itself to trade down, that my be the best play, but if we draft at number nine, then I hope that we draft the BPA. If the FO deems that that is Blackmon, then so be it.



Stop being mad because the talking heads agree with me. We debated all night and I was just wating for them to compare draft Class wr.

Like I said Blackmon is in the range of Nicks and Bowie again that's not bad he is still a 1st round talent. But not top 10 you got to have talent that changes your team. He would be a luxury pick for us and right now we can't afford to make luxury picks.


The only reason he and Floyd are getting Mock so high because there are a couple teams in the top 15 picks that have a desperate need for a wr.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:52 AM

@ Pantherclaw

Decastro is pretty Elite ...just plays guard.

could Argue Mo Claiborne but.... Thats it with a reach.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:54 AM

He's right up there with the two guys from last season. People who only pay attention to what the current wave of draft media get easily swayed since very few fans actually watch these guys play.

Blackmon was dominant the past two years...pretty much doubling Green's production

He can play

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:08 AM

I don't think he's elite in the fact that you can heave it up and expect a completion, like Dalton can with AJ Green. I think he can give a passing game elite production, given the right system.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:18 AM

Guess what? No one knows who is going to be an elite talent. These are just guesses. Most times they are right, a good deal of times they are wrong. Saying a player isn't elite because he isn't just like player A or player B means nothing. Alshon Jeffrey may turn out just as good as AJ Green, however we won't know that till the lights are up and the playing starts. It also has to do with the system that is being run, the situation in place, and the individual player. Saying the top 15 is shortsighted at best.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:46 AM

Stop being mad because the talking heads agree with me. We debated all night and I was just wating for them to compare draft Class wr.

Like I said Blackmon is in the range of Nicks and Bowie again that's not bad he is still a 1st round talent. But not top 10 you got to have talent that changes your team. He would be a luxury pick for us and right now we can't afford to make luxury picks.


The only reason he and Floyd are getting Mock so high because there are a couple teams in the top 15 picks that have a desperate need for a wr.


Nicks and Bowe are great wrs.
If Blackmon is being compared to them, then he could be better than Julio.
No one ever said he was better than Green.

And of course that's how the drafts are every year. Teams drafting in the top are taking who they need, not who they want. Nicks and Bowe dropped because teams needed other positions. If you go back and do a redo draft, I'm positive that both Nicks and Bowe are going much higher than where they were taken.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:50 AM

Guess what? No one knows who is going to be an elite talent. These are just guesses. Most times they are right, a good deal of times they are wrong. Saying a player isn't elite because he isn't just like player A or player B means nothing. Alshon Jeffrey may turn out just as good as AJ Green, however we won't know that till the lights are up and the playing starts. It also has to do with the system that is being run, the situation in place, and the individual player. Saying the top 15 is shortsighted at best.


And bump to this 10000000x.
Couldn't said it any better. This post ends here.
Not much of a debate.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:22 PM

You're right. KK just wanted to stroke his own ego is all

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:33 PM

Man these threads are gonna flood the first page again if Blackmon ends up being a pro bowler.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:23 PM

Nicks and Bowe are great wrs.
If Blackmon is being compared to them, then he could be better than Julio.
No one ever said he was better than Green.

And of course that's how the drafts are every year. Teams drafting in the top are taking who they need, not who they want. Nicks and Bowe dropped because teams needed other positions. If you go back and do a redo draft, I'm positive that both Nicks and Bowe are going much higher than where they were taken.



Both were drafted in the 20's still 1st round talent but not team changing talent.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:25 PM

You're right. KK just wanted to stroke his own ego is all


Like a fluffy kitty.


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