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#16 UNCrules2187

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:17 AM

Look, despite my username, I'm not a huge fan of Coples - he really should have dominated this past year with his skills and potential. But I guarantee there will NOT be 49 better players from this draft than Coples.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:18 AM

Low ranking by Mayock? Coples is the next Reggie White.

Imagine if we'd taken Pickles 2.0... I just threw up.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:19 AM

Low ranking by Mayock? Coples is the next Reggie White.

*sigh* ...that stuff doesn't work here.

#19 KDawg004

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:21 AM

Let's hope GMs listen to him so we can draft Cox and then move up and grab Coples. Pipe dream i know.

Johnson Cox Edwards Coples

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:22 AM

I don't even have Mayock rated in top 50 of my draft analyst rankings.

#21 KDawg004

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:24 AM

Mayock does seem to go against the grain sometimes. But, he does know how to scout DBs.

#22 RockyTopVol

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:36 AM

Coples is the Cam Newton of this draft IMO.

I mean that solely on the polarization of the player not whether I think he will be a good pro.


I think Dontari Poe is the Newton of this draft. Will either be a bust or an every-year Pro Bowler. Glad we swung for the fences with Newton, not sure we should do it with Poe.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:38 AM

I think Dontari Poe is the Newton of this draft. Will either be a bust or an every-year Pro Bowler. Glad we swung for the fences with Newton, not sure we should do it with Poe.


Cam Newton won a Heisman and a BCS championship in only one year with his team.

Dontari Poe couldn't even formulate a 30 second highlight reel in the C-USA (yes, that's a conference).

How are they similar?

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:39 AM

I can't even take Mayock serious anymore.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:39 AM

I think Dontari Poe is the Newton of this draft. Will either be a bust or an every-year Pro Bowler. Glad we swung for the fences with Newton, not sure we should do it with Poe.

horrible comparison.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 10:52 AM

I like Coples, I am just not sure he can be an elite outside pass rusher. I personally would like to see him add 20 pounds and move inside where i think he can be elite.

At DE I still think he will be very good and be stout against the run and get about 6-7 sacks a year. Not great but really good

However, if he does drop to us and we draft him I think it is an immediate upgrade over Hardy and wouldn't be upset at all if we got him.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:05 AM

I take Mayock as seriously as I do anyone else, but they're all hit or miss. Some "hit" more than others (McShay stinks) but when you get right down to it, it's all just educated guessing.

For that matter, if you want an idea of just how inexact a science draft scouting truly is, check out this item from PFT:

Billick says Ravens had highest draft grade ever on Jamarcus Russell

The Ravens scouting department, led by former NFL great Ozzie newsome, is widely considered to be one of the absolute best in the league.

They're also the bunch who deemed Kyle Boller worthy of a first round pick in 2003. And who - we now know - thought a guy who's now considered by many to be the biggest bust of all time was the greatest QB prospect in their history.

Bottom Line: Someone will take Coples (maybe us) in the first round, and it'll be a great move or a mistake. If it's us we'll argue about it relentlessly (heck, we do that already). But in the end, regardless of who we take, we'll all hope the Panthers were wise.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:13 AM

The trouble some of these guys get it though is going WAY against the grain and venturing off into declaring a 'bust'. He's been down on Coples (with good reason) forever, but to go as far as to say he wouldn't draft him? That's extreme to me.

#29 sml1950

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:24 AM

In Hurney's interview yesterday he said that safety of the #9 pick would play a big role in the player we drafted. You can be damn sure that if we draft anyone with red flags that he has exhusted every avenue ( like with Cam) in determining the truth behind of those problems. With Coples, I'm thinking he likes money more than football, which is never a good thing.

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 11:26 AM

To be fair, he did have Cam rated in the 20s because he was afraid of off the field issues. Which, let's be honest, was a legitimate concern. Even Ryan Kalil said he didn't want to play with an arrogant guy like. But, then everyone got to know Cam, and he was definitely different that everyone expected.


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