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The President Doesn't Know When To Just Stfu - War On Women Indeed


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#61 Floppin

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:08 AM

work is blisters and sweat and blood. people choose careers because there is no work involved.

sitting behind a desk or standing behind a podium is not work no matter how much money you make.


Retarded opinion is retarded.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 12:15 PM

yeah i wouldn't expect you to know what work is

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 01:11 PM

Never once did i say make abortions illegal nationwide. Stop putting words in my mouth. I was basically saying liberals need to stop being so damn hypocritical on every issue.

Republicans hate women!!! **but liberals call repub women sluts all the time***

Its funny. Me and my wife have been married for 3+ years. We don't want kids right now (to much we wanna do in life before we cross that bridge). So what do we do? We are EXTRA CAREFUL (yes TMI). Moral of the story...we have no damn kids right now **knocks on wood**. Maybe if liberal women would use some damn constraint and tell me to either A). Put on a condom or B) not have sex at all, maybe we wouldnt be in this predicament now would we?

Why should my tax paying dollars go to some woman who can't keep her legs closed? Seriously?

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 01:18 PM

work is blisters and sweat and blood. people choose careers because there is no work involved.

sitting behind a desk or standing behind a podium is not work no matter how much money you make.


are you trolling? I think you're trolling. you must be trolling

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:59 PM

work is blisters and sweat and blood. people choose careers because there is no work involved.

sitting behind a desk or standing behind a podium is not work no matter how much money you make.


One of the most ignorant posts I have ever read. There is nothing wrong with earning a living through manual labor. But not considering those who work in an office as not working is ridiculous.

I put in 14 hours a day behind a computer. It may not be physically demanding but it sure as hell is mentally demanding and draining.

Education gives you a valuable and marketable skill. Only being able to rely on the strength of your back makes you expendable.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:36 PM

http://www.huffingto..._n_1425910.html Well it's true for the little people I hear, my friends employ them. More shrimp cocktail please.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:45 PM

Never once did i say make abortions illegal nationwide. Stop putting words in my mouth. I was basically saying liberals need to stop being so damn hypocritical on every issue.

Republicans hate women!!! **but liberals call repub women sluts all the time***

Its funny. Me and my wife have been married for 3+ years. We don't want kids right now (to much we wanna do in life before we cross that bridge). So what do we do? We are EXTRA CAREFUL (yes TMI). Moral of the story...we have no damn kids right now **knocks on wood**. Maybe if liberal women would use some damn constraint and tell me to either A). Put on a condom or B) not have sex at all, maybe we wouldnt be in this predicament now would we?

Why should my tax paying dollars go to some woman who can't keep her legs closed? Seriously?


I love the "only liberals don't use condoms" argument. It has a real solid footing in reality.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:50 PM

One of the most ignorant posts I have ever read. There is nothing wrong with earning a living through manual labor. But not considering those who work in an office as not working is ridiculous.

I put in 14 hours a day behind a computer. It may not be physically demanding but it sure as hell is mentally demanding and draining.

Education gives you a valuable and marketable skill. Only being able to rely on the strength of your back makes you expendable.


you poor thing. maybe you'd be happier with a job outside, like roofing.

oh wait, that's too much like work.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:46 PM

Never once did i say make abortions illegal nationwide. Stop putting words in my mouth. I was basically saying liberals need to stop being so damn hypocritical on every issue.

Republicans hate women!!! **but liberals call repub women sluts all the time***

Its funny. Me and my wife have been married for 3+ years. We don't want kids right now (to much we wanna do in life before we cross that bridge). So what do we do? We are EXTRA CAREFUL (yes TMI). Moral of the story...we have no damn kids right now **knocks on wood**. Maybe if liberal women would use some damn constraint and tell me to either A). Put on a condom or B) not have sex at all, maybe we wouldnt be in this predicament now would we?

Why should my tax paying dollars go to some woman who can't keep her legs closed? Seriously?


first of all, there are hypocrites on both sides. second of all, bill maher calling republicans sluts does not make every liberal a hypocrite, nor does it mean every liberal thinks that. on the other hand, when the vast, vast majority of republicans seem to be eager to limit access to abortions, I think that area is a legitimate place to question republicans as a whole.

I'm glad you have avoided having kids. Congrats. It sounds like you would be in favor of more sex ed so that we can teach our youth, especially underprivaleged youth, about birth control. If so, perhaps we have found common ground... something lacking in this country. My opinion is that we wouldn't be "in this predicament" (I'm assuming you mean having people have abortions) if we increased education & access to contraception. I do not think there are many who would rather have an abortion than use a condom, but I think circumstances exist that put people in terrible situations.

As to the tax dollars thing, we don't get to choose where our tax dollars are spent; there are often programs & things that are funded that we may personally disagree with, but if they benefit the country as a whole... meh.

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Posted 14 April 2012 - 11:46 PM

you poor thing. maybe you'd be happier with a job outside, like roofing.

oh wait, that's too much like work.


or maybe I suck ass at roofing. Maybe I am better suited to teaching, or something else. Maybe, just maybe, there is more than one way to work in this country. Manual labor is not the only form of work. There are many things that Madhatter does that I bet you couldn't. Same with what I do. Doesn't make us better than you. Just means the work we do is different. No less legitimately work... not manual labor, but not everything is.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 12:03 AM

bunch of fuging sissies that can't handle a job without air conditioning

whiners, complainers, borderline loafers that would melt if they actually had to do something

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 12:28 AM

bunch of fuging sissies that can't handle a job without air conditioning

whiners, complainers, borderline loafers that would melt if they actually had to do something


If we still left rep comments, I would leave "Like a Bauss" on this one

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 06:32 AM

or maybe I suck ass at roofing. Maybe I am better suited to teaching, or something else. Maybe, just maybe, there is more than one way to work in this country. Manual labor is not the only form of work. There are many things that Madhatter does that I bet you couldn't. Same with what I do. Doesn't make us better than you. Just means the work we do is different. No less legitimately work... not manual labor, but not everything is.


Exactly.

I have all the respect in the world for those who put in long hours at a physically demanding job.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 06:36 AM

you poor thing. maybe you'd be happier with a job outside, like roofing.

oh wait, that's too much like work.


I guarantee you that you don't have the skills, education, or intelligence to do what I do go a living.

I don't look down on anyone out there busting their ass to put food on the table for their families. But your comment sounds a lot like jealousy to me.

I chose to utilize my mind rather than my back in my career.

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Posted 15 April 2012 - 07:19 AM

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WASHINGTON -- Women who stay at home to raise their children should be given federal assistance for child care so that they can enter the job market and "have the dignity of work," Mitt Romney said in January, undercutting the sense of extreme umbrage he showed when Democratic strategist Hilary Rosen quipped last week that Ann Romney had not "worked a day in her life."
The remark, made to a Manchester, N.H., audience, was unearthed by MSNBC's "Up w/Chris Hayes," and will air during the 8 a.m. hour of his show Sunday.
Ann Romney and her husband's campaign fired back hard at Rosen following her remark. "I made a choice to stay home and raise five boys. Believe me, it was hard work," Romney said on Twitter.
Mitt Romney, however, judging by his January remark, views stay-at-home moms who are supported by federal assistance much differently than those backed by hundreds of millions in private equity income. Poor women, he said, shouldn't be given a choice, but instead should be required to work outside the home to receive Temporary Assistance for Needy Families benefits. "[E]ven if you have a child 2 years of age, you need to go to work," Romney said of moms on TANF.
Recalling his effort as governor to increase the amount of time women on welfare in Massachusetts were required to work, Romney noted that some had considered his proposal "heartless," but he argued that the women would be better off having "the dignity of work" -- a suggestion Ann Romney would likely take issue with.
"I wanted to increase the work requirement," said Romney. "I said, for instance, that even if you have a child 2 years of age, you need to go to work. And people said, 'Well that's heartless.' And I said, 'No, no, I'm willing to spend more giving day care to allow those parents to go back to work. It'll cost the state more providing that daycare, but I want the individuals to have the dignity of work.'"
Regardless of its level of dignity, for Ann Romney, her work raising her children would not have fulfilled her work requirement had she been on TANF benefits. As HuffPost reported Thursday:


As far as Uncle Sam is concerned, if you're poor, deciding to stay at home and rear your children is not an option. Thanks to welfare reform, recipients of federal benefits must prove to a caseworker that they have performed, over the course of a week, a certain number of hours of "work activity." That number changes from state to state, and each state has discretion as to how narrowly work is defined, but federal law lists 12 broad categories that are covered.
Raising children is not among them.
According to a 2006 Congressional Research Service report, the dozen activities that fulfill the work requirement are:
(1) unsubsidized employment
(2) subsidized private sector employment
(3) subsidized public sector employment
(4) work experience
(5) on-the-job training
(6) job search and job readiness assistance
(7) community services programs
(8) vocational educational training
(9) job skills training directly related to employment
(10) education directly related to employment (for those without a high school degree or equivalent)
(11) satisfactory attendance at a secondary school
(12) provision of child care to a participant of a community service program
The only child-care related activity on the list is the last one, which would allow someone to care for someone else's child if that person were off volunteering. But it does not apply to married couples in some states. Connecticut, for instance, specifically prevents counting as "work" an instance in which one parent watches a child while the other parent volunteers.
The federal government does at least implicitly acknowledge the value of child care, though not for married couples. According to a 2012 Urban Institute study, a single mother is required to work 30 hours a week, but the requirement drops to 20 hours if she has a child under 6. A married woman, such as Romney, would not be entitled to such a reduction in the requirement. If a married couple receives federally funded child care, the work requirement increases by 20 hours, from 35 hours to 55 hours between the two of them, another implicit acknowledgment of the value of stay-at-home work.

Romney's January view echoes a remark he made in 1994 during his failed Senate campaign. "This is a different world than it was in the 1960s when I was growing up, when you used to have Mom at home and Dad at work," Romney said, as shown in a video posted by BuzzFeed's Andrew Kaczynski. "Now Mom and Dad both have to work whether they want to or not, and usually one of them has two jobs."


Another shining example of how Republicans have backed themselves into a corner with their rhetoric.


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