Wr Stephen Hill Visiting Panthers
#31
Posted 14 April 2012 - 08:58 AM
#32
Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:24 AM
#33
Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:27 AM
All this tells me is that Hurney is evaluating a wide array of players in the event that he can do what he wants to do, which is trade down. IDT he's sold on Cox, Coples, or Brockers and he knows that Claiborne isn't going to fall.
But he's sold on Hill?
#34
Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:07 PM
#35
Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:29 PM
#36
Posted 14 April 2012 - 02:53 PM
But he's sold on Hill?
No...He just isn't sold on anyone else to take at #9. So he is evaluating players in the event that he trades back into the 20s (and all of the 1st round quality DL players are gone). Options are more limited in the 20s and if that trade is made, all indications point to Cox, Coples, Brockers all being gone so we might have to go to a different position. IDT Stephen Hill would be the guy (even in the late part of the 1st) but it just shows that he wants to make sure he's taken a look at everyone he MIGHT be willing to take.
#37
Posted 14 April 2012 - 03:00 PM
No...He just isn't sold on anyone else to take at #9. So he is evaluating players in the event that he trades back into the 20s (and all of the 1st round quality DL players are gone). Options are more limited in the 20s and if that trade is made, all indications point to Cox, Coples, Brockers all being gone so we might have to go to a different position. IDT Stephen Hill would be the guy (even in the late part of the 1st) but it just shows that he wants to make sure he's taken a look at everyone he MIGHT be willing to take.
I would be Pissed if he takes this risk even with a trade back. A lot of raw ability but no college production. I see no difference between Hill and Poe. Except Poe plays a Position of greater need.
#38
Guest_Bwood_*
Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:31 PM
#39
Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:33 PM
If Kendall Wright or Stephen Hill are available at #40, they'll be a Panther.
Then that IMO will be a wasted pick.
#40
Guest_Bwood_*
Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:35 PM
Then that IMO will be a wasted pick.
Why? Another automatic upgrade in the passing game, and a possible replacement for Smitty.
LaFell, Gettis, Olsen, and one more star potential wide out would make this offense unstoppable for the next 7+ offense. I'm talking Manning, Wayne, Harrison, Clark status.
#41
Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:47 PM
Why? Another automatic upgrade in the passing game, and a possible replacement for Smitty.
LaFell, Gettis, Olsen, and one more star potential wide out would make this offense unstoppable for the next 7+ offense. I'm talking Manning, Wayne, Harrison, Clark status.
Hill is a project WR right now. He doesn't have college production. He never made big plays against the better CB he faced. He played in a system that didn't teach him how to run pro routes. He has a lot of Raw talent but doesn't know how to use it yet.
Now in the 2nd round you want a impact player or a starter. I don't see that from him for a year or 2. Which makes it a wasted pick because he might not make a impact for 2 years.
#42
Posted 14 April 2012 - 04:56 PM
I would be Pissed if he takes this risk even with a trade back. A lot of raw ability but no college production. I see no difference between Hill and Poe. Except Poe plays a Position of greater need.
The same thought crossed my mind. Poe is supposedly a workout wonder because he had great measurables but was underwhelming in the C-USA. He would not be worth a first round pick in some minds. Yet Hill has great measurables but was underwhelming because he played in a run heavy option scheme which is not that different in some ways to what we run. Yet he will be great as a pro because he hasn't had a chance. Even though he played in the ACC which we are reminded in every kuechly thread was an underwhelming conference as well.
I wish people would be consistent.......
#43
Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:09 PM
The same thought crossed my mind. Poe is supposedly a workout wonder because he had great measurables but was underwhelming in the C-USA. He would not be worth a first round pick in some minds. Yet Hill has great measurables but was underwhelming because he played in a run heavy option scheme which is not that different in some ways to what we run. Yet he will be great as a pro because he hasn't had a chance. Even though he played in the ACC which we are reminded in every kuechly thread was an underwhelming conference as well.
I wish people would be consistent.......
I also find it funny that drafting a DT means we are giving up on Fua and McClain but drafting WR doesn't mean tthe same for Gettis and Lafell.
Plus look at the numbers when he faced the best CB's in the ACC. Minnifield and Hosley (both rated 3rd and 4th round picks) he did nothing.
He had 0 rec. in a loss to VA. and 2 rec. in a loss to Vtech.
#44
Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:20 PM
I also find it funny that drafting a DT means we are giving up on Fua and McClain but drafting WR doesn't mean tthe same for Gettis and Lafell.
Plus look at the numbers when he faced the best CB's in the ACC. Minnifield and Hosley (both rated 3rd and 4th round picks) he did nothing.
He had 0 rec. in a loss to VA. and 2 rec. in a loss to Vtech.
Prepare for Teeray to come busting up in here any second........................
#45
Posted 14 April 2012 - 05:24 PM
Prepare for Teeray to come busting up in here any second........................
Women lie Men lie numbers don't.
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