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[Bj-Monster23]

I would take either but it will be a must to trade down. I can't take them at #9.

[lineal89]

I'm not sure you realize what kind of baggage Jenkins has. Cam had more hypothesized baggage, and people saying his dad wanted money for him to play some place.... Jenkins has DUI's, multiple marijuana charges, terrible interviews with teams, was FIRED by his agent, the list goes on. His baggage is over the top, and I wouldn't want him on our team with so many young guys...... Dre and Gilmore all the way.

Gilmore is such an athlete, he even ran his 40 in .1 seconds faster than Dre at the combine, that's quite a bit. Even though Dre is taller, Gilmore has a higher vert and longer arms. If you are going on pure measurables, Gilmore beats Dre in every aspect of the game. I also like his ball skills more than Dre. They both played in the SEC against top ranked opponents, so its a really tough call, but Gilmore, unquestionably, has better athletic ability.

Gilmore got beat in man coverage multiple times. He's not good enough to come in and be our No. 2 CB. We need a #2 now, not another development.

[DaCityKats]

mo cla has been beating before,every CB has.thats not an excuse to not take a DB.

[bes628]

This isn't even a serious debate imo. Gilmore is a hack, dude has been overrated. He's good for giving up one big play per game, at the very least.

[beastson]

My issue with Dre is that he'll never be a number 1 corner type. A good number 2. I just see him getting burned in coverage in the NFL. So I dont want him and Gilmore... come on man definitely not number 1, at 9

[bleys]

Gilmore got beat in man coverage multiple times. He's not good enough to come in and be our No. 2 CB. We need a #2 now, not another development.

even if we draft Claiborne, I doubt he'll start over Hogan right away.. we have our #2 at the moment..

[Dash Global]

even if we draft Claiborne, I doubt he'll start over Hogan right away.. we have our #2 at the moment..

And you know this how? ie Hogan's abilities?

[La Pantera]

Because CB rarely make a impact on D year one!?

[jtm]

I would take Jenkins all day long over all CBs except for Clairborne. Jenkins seems insistent that marijuana use is not a problem. The NFL does not support this position and this makes Jenkins a huge risk.

I'm okay w Gilmore or Dre in the 2nd, but not at 9.

[bleys]

And you know this how? ie Hogan's abilities?

call it a hunch.. but from what I've seen, knowing it'll be 8 more months on a healthy ACL, and the fact that if he is a baller like I expect- he's only getting better..

also, despite a common lack of patience among fans these days, not all CBs come into the league and lite it up. A guy like Claiborne still has to prove he can beat out Hogan, and I don't think that's going to be as easy as some fans might project..

[lineal89]

even if we draft Claiborne, I doubt he'll start over Hogan right away.. we have our #2 at the moment..

How do you figure that Hogan is already our #2 when he's barely played? Rivera seems to be a show me coach and I think that our #2 CB is up for grabs!

[GIXXER1000]

While Kirkpatrick may be a tad more physical, if we trade down, I'll take Gilmore. Way more upside, better speed, seems to blanket recievers better, better character/work ethic and Gilmore is money on CB blitzes. As someone who watched Gilmore's entire career at South Carolina, my only knock on him is that he's been known to miss a few tackles here and there due to not wrapping up the ball carrier completely. I dunno, neither are worth a top 10 pick in my opinion, they both seem to fit somewhere between 15 - 25 in my mock. Here are few highlights from both.

[bleys]

How do you figure that Hogan is already our #2 when he's barely played? Rivera seems to be a show me coach and I think that our #2 CB is up for grabs!

like I said, call it a hunch.. when the season comes around, we'll see if that hunch was correct. From what I've seen, he's got above average coverage skills. Obviously more time is needed to confirm that. If true and because Rivera is a "show me coach", then I don't foresee a rookie CB taking over, no matter his name.

[Dash Global]

Hogan is essentially a rookie...

We are not talking about a multi year starter here. An elite - good college corner could easily come in an win the starting nod.

[lineal89]

like I said, call it a hunch.. when the season comes around, we'll see if that hunch was correct. From what I've seen, he's got above average coverage skills. Obviously more time is needed to confirm that. If true and because Rivera is a "show me coach", then I don't foresee a rookie CB taking over, no matter his name.

Hogan is no different than a rookie, "no matter his name". So bringing a rookie in will only be competition for the spot. Hogan don't have it locked up but if he wins it great. All I want is a solid #2.