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#1 KendrickPanther

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:00 AM

http://profootballta...dium-situation/

This is one of the better articles I have ever seen PFT. If there is one thing Florio knows it's lawyer business.

I would be shocked and upset if the Vikings left Minnesota. If the NFC East is the style division, well the NFC North is substance. A division comprised of classic NFL franchises. When ever you mix business and politics both sides end up being wrong. The Vikings want a stadium funded with over 50% public money and the politicians are well....politicians. I just really hope they settle this, it would start an awful precedent for strong franchises to leave small markets over stadiums.

To tie this into Charlotte relocation has always been a concern of mine. We have experienced it with the Hornets. I think the Richardson family is committed to the city but I am younger than JR and his sons. I want this team to be here when I die, not when they die. People like to complain about PSL but I have to hand it to Jerry, he built a stadium without a serious public contribution. There are talks of remodeling and I'm curious if he pays that himself or surcharges PSL owners. I'm of the opinion the sooner we build the better. We built Ericsson for what? 250mil? 17 years later Stadium are going for a billion. If we wait another 15-20 years it could be god knows what.

So not much to see here. Just found this article to be worth reading.

#2 Snake

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:05 AM

Panthers have never asked a cent from Charlotte and thats why they are the Carolina Panthers and not the Charlotte Panthers. IMO the Vikes are just greedy and want to move so they make more doe. Im just happy JR is not money hungry like some owners.

#3 PeteRozelle

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:09 AM

I dont believe any form of government should be involved in building stadiums for professional teams or funding any private industry/business for that matter..

They sure didnt help me when I opened up my businesses. Actually quite the opposite, they were/are almost always in the way.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:19 AM

does your business have the same economic impact as an nfl team?

to say that the government shouldn't have ANY involvement is pretty silly.

#5 KendrickPanther

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:21 AM

I am a surveyor and deal with municipalities on construction from time to time. I'm sure the city of Charlotte offered incentives to bring in the Panthers. Things like expedited building permits and tax/fee breaks.

I tend to be conservative about govt spending but the city/state benefit from having an NFL franchise. They tax the millions of dollars in revenue a Franchise generates in a region. Then tax the employees creating the revenue. Franchises are a source of prestige to an area that pays dividends in the world of big business.

So I'm ok with the govt chipping in if it's not excessive or frequent.

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:26 AM

I am a surveyor and deal with municipalities on construction from time to time. I'm sure the city of Charlotte offered incentives to bring in the Panthers. Things like expedited building permits and tax/fee breaks.

I tend to be conservative about govt spending but the city/state benefit from having an NFL franchise. They tax the millions of dollars in revenue a Franchise generates in a region. Then tax the employees creating the revenue. Franchises are a source of prestige to an area that pays dividends in the world of big business.

So I'm ok with the govt chipping in if it's not excessive or frequent.


This^^^

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:32 AM

bring them to the carolinas. Wouldn't mind 2 nfl teams. Just put them in the AFC

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:37 AM

Panthers have never asked a cent from Charlotte and thats why they are the Carolina Panthers and not the Charlotte Panthers. IMO the Vikes are just greedy and want to move so they make more doe. Im just happy JR is not money hungry like some owners.

Charlotte paid for the land the Panthers are on.

#9 PeteRozelle

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 12:44 AM

does your business have the same economic impact as an nfl team?

to say that the government shouldn't have ANY involvement is pretty silly.


Study after study is done on this... The public is lead to believe there is a benefit, but time and time again it is proven, there is very little to no benefit for the local economy.

..and yes, I overstated my thought, Government does need to be involved in some form, but not with public funds.

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#10 Dex

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:25 AM

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 01:41 AM

Study after study is done on this... The public is lead to believe there is a benefit, but time and time again it is proven, there is very little to no benefit for the local economy.

..and yes, I overstated my thought, Government does need to be involved in some form, but not with public funds.

pete


welp everyone case closed the panthers provide little to no benefit to the local economy

#12 Nicbsbll2

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 07:35 AM

Study after study is done on this... The public is lead to believe there is a benefit, but time and time again it is proven, there is very little to no benefit for the local economy.

..and yes, I overstated my thought, Government does need to be involved in some form, but not with public funds.

pete


Umm.... what the hell are you talking about? Give me the names of these studies, and the researchers behind them, or else you just made that completely up.

#13 xtheronx

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 07:51 AM

does your business have the same economic impact as an nfl team?

to say that the government shouldn't have ANY involvement is pretty silly.


of course they should be involved .. just not financially .. these owners will find a way to make it happen .. if not someone else will .. that's what makes a free economy so great

#14 Nicks To The Colts

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 07:57 AM

where's fiz with his free market nfl troll persona when you need it

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Posted 20 April 2012 - 08:01 AM

Panthers have never asked a cent from Charlotte and thats why they are the Carolina Panthers and not the Charlotte Panthers. IMO the Vikes are just greedy and want to move so they make more doe. Im just happy JR is not money hungry like some owners.

Mostly agree, but I really don't think the Vikings care about deer one way or the other...JMO.


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