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Gilmore Overlooked By Board

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I don't like Gilmore at 9. He's a decent cover corner and gets burned man to man. I hope we get Janoris Jenkins in the 2nd. He's far better than Gilmore. More baggage, much better play. We could run man D.

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As someone who watched him play quite a bit this season, I strongly disagree that he's a top10 talent. Then again, my evaluations are rarely accurate.

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Does anyone in here evaluate film and know what to look for when a CB is playing Zone or Man?

If you can tell the difference, then ask yourself if you can tell which play is being ran and who's got what assignment...

If you can't do both of those consistently, don't say anything about Gilmore getting burned or playing bad.

No one can evaluate film because none of us have game film. Youtube mixes aren't the best ways to evaluate players but they do show you tidbits on players.

I watch CFB and that's how I evaluate players, by actually watching the games. I can tell you Gilmore is not worthy of a top 10 pick. Sometimes it's hard to spotlight a CB on TV because the camera follows the ball and they are off screen many times. But you can tell when CBs are getting picked on, when they are having a rough time, when they are missing tackles, and so on....

Don't tell me you have to evaluate game film to know Captain is a poor CB.

Heck most on here thought that Kirkpatrick was playing Zone all the time in college when he even admitted in an interview that Bama ran mostly Man and the zone looks they played were bump and run man coverage that floated into zone coverage in some places depending on what routes where ran.

Maybe I am only speaking for myself, but I think most acknowledged that he would seem to be better suited for zone not that they mostly ran zone necessarily.

Jenkins has the best pure coverage skills out of all the CBs. But for the off-field issues, he would be top 10. Better than Claiborne, Kirkpatrick and Gilmore. Since Jenkins will be around later, I wouldn't pick any of his less skilled on-field rivals in the first. But that's just me.

I'm with you, that makes a lot of sense. Why draft Gilmore at 9 when you can get a better CB possibly at 40?

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Cam Newton is a bust he aint even know no NFL laungauege how he gonna learns the NFL...pass we need Fairley

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In fairness to Gilmore, only a few of those Lance Lewis catches were against him. Looked like SC was in zone on a lot of those plays, especially the short hitches and slants. The first jump ball was a bad play by Gilmore, he didn't play the ball in the air correctly. On the second one he just got outjumped by a bigger guy, that happens sometimes, even to the best corners. I think Gilmore is at least on par with Dre Kirkpatrick, although I wouldn't take either player at 9. Value wise, I think both players are really late first round guys who will be picked earlier because of a weak overall cornerback class. If the Panthers trade down, Gilmore could be a good pick, he would fit as a solid #2 corner across from Gamble, but I don't see him as a guy that could ever fill that true #1 role in the long term, meaning we would need another CB in a few years.

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If Cox, Coples, and Ingram are all gone, I would be more than happy to take Gilmore.

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Wait....are people still really trying to argue that Stephon Gilmore is worth a top 10 pick? Hahaha man I can't wait for the draft to be over.

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Wait....are people still really trying to argue that Stephon Gilmore is worth a top 10 pick? Hahaha man I can't wait for the draft to be over.

I don't know if he will be or not, but, like I said, if Cox, Coples, and Ingram are gone (which there is a slight chance of that happening), I wouldn't mind taking Gilmore at 9.

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I don't know if he will be or not, but, like I said, if Cox, Coples, and Ingram are gone (which there is a slight chance of that happening), I wouldn't mind taking Gilmore at 9.

That's exactly why I just want this to be over, I'm sick of all of the what ifs because they are infinite.

The reality is that if somehow ALL of our guy's are gone before our pick for some STRANGE reason, we will go Michael Floyd because he is the best player available in the eyes of our front office. Also don't dis-include Kuechly.

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We can have Cox/Jenkins or Gilmore/Still. If you pick the latter you're an idiot.

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