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#205 FirstRoundPick

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 09:54 PM

they do have Fua and McClain at DT... that is a fact.. yet you have yet to really say anything.. carry on, continue to spin your tires for all to see.. lol


They as in the Chargers and Bears. Go back to quoting good job one liners to CRA, he can actually respectfully and intelligently debate.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 09:57 PM

can you find one post where I've said good job to CRA? I'm here respectfully talking with you, giving you attention your parents neglected to provide you while you have yet to say one intelligent thing.. nice try?

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 10:27 PM

can you find one post where I've said good job to CRA? I'm here respectfully talking with you, giving you attention your parents neglected to provide you while you have yet to say one intelligent thing.. nice try?


I think you may be tip-toeing around the fact that the Bears and Chargers had good DT's. First time there was pronoun confusion. Second time you choose to focus on the CRA comment.

The "I need attention because my parents neglected me" angle is exactly why you are not being respectful." It is fine that you do that, but I don't want you to think you are something that you are not. I prefer the conversation steer to the facts and not personal shots, I may use sarcasm excessively, but I see it as a tool to make a point with, but you will not see me calling someone an idiot for having a different view point.

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Posted 28 April 2012 - 11:51 PM

I think you may be tip-toeing around the fact that the Bears and Chargers had good DT's. First time there was pronoun confusion. Second time you choose to focus on the CRA comment.

The "I need attention because my parents neglected me" angle is exactly why you are not being respectful." It is fine that you do that, but I don't want you to think you are something that you are not. I prefer the conversation steer to the facts and not personal shots, I may use sarcasm excessively, but I see it as a tool to make a point with, but you will not see me calling someone an idiot for having a different view point.


My point has been stated: you seem to think you know more than Rivera about the talent he has evaluated while using examples from teams he elevated to the top of the league.. (you see the irony right?)

You think Garay came into the league and lit it up his first year? Try 6 years down the road before he even compares to what Fua and McClain did through 13 games. LOL And guess when he was drafted... in the 6th round.

therefore, back to my point, at this juncture it is too early to tell what will become of Fua and McClain.. I thought I explained that already? Am I still tip-toeing around some point I haven't already stated?

Antonio Garay, and Tommie Harris says hi. And the Bears have had a good rotation of DT and DE for years including the Superbowl years, but do not feel like looking it up. If you aren't going to try then neither am I.


The Chicago Bears ranked 22nd defense in 2003, Ron Rivera then became DC in 2004 they ranked 21 and then the following year roughly top 2...

Then he went to the San Diego Chargers and posted 25th in his 1st year as DC, 16nd his 2nd, and ranked 1st in his 3rd...

Also, Rivera acquired most of his DTs... which apparently you seem to think is the exact same situation here for the Panthers, despite the massive youth movement exercised the year before he came here... But let's compare the situations early in the beginning instead of where they ended up by judging Rivera in his 1st year developing this team...


so if you're going to raise any points you might want to try something other than random assumptions and apples/oranges comparisons. ;)

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:29 AM

Thanks for showing me how much Bears and Chargers DT's sucked liked ours did.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:40 AM

Thanks for showing me how much Bears and Chargers DT's sucked liked ours did.


It doesnt matter if The Bears and Chargers DTs were 3rd string scrubs or all-pro Probowlers. The fact is that Rivera made those defenses, and coached both of them to #1 rankings.

Coach Rivera knows what he is doing. If he doesnt think that our DTs are good enough, he will fix it. He didnt do it in the draft because he either likes the squad we already have, or he plans to improve them in free agency. I think that he likes the squad we have right now, but it doesnt matter what you, bleys or I think, because Rivera knows more about the situation than any of us, and given his track record, I am inclined to trust him.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:42 AM

I yub, yub, yub this guy. Yub him.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 08:43 AM

I know its early... but Firstroundpick seems to be an absolute bust.

As a first round pick, he is expected to contribute, but he is just getting blown away on every post.

Much like Clausen, he hasn't even shown any flashes.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:18 AM

It doesnt matter if The Bears and Chargers DTs were 3rd string scrubs or all-pro Probowlers. The fact is that Rivera made those defenses, and coached both of them to #1 rankings.

Coach Rivera knows what he is doing. If he doesnt think that our DTs are good enough, he will fix it. He didnt do it in the draft because he either likes the squad we already have, or he plans to improve them in free agency. I think that he likes the squad we have right now, but it doesnt matter what you, bleys or I think, because Rivera knows more about the situation than any of us, and given his track record, I am inclined to trust him.


It does matter, because if he had 3rd string scrubs the defenses would have got run on like we did last year. Rivera does not have magic powers by standing on the sideline you have #1 defense. I'm not hating this draft, I'm hating the complete picture of how this team has been built over the last seven years. 3 LBers, 2 RB, trading away future picks is a waste of valuable resources that good teams manage correctly.

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Posted 29 April 2012 - 09:19 AM

I know its early... but Firstroundpick seems to be an absolute bust.

As a first round pick, he is expected to contribute, but he is just getting blown away on every post.

Much like Clausen, he hasn't even shown any flashes.


How do I get better? Start agreeing to all of your opinions?