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Rivera: We Would Have Drafted Coples To Play Dt If Kuechly Wasn't There


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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:36 PM

O OK. Can you explain that a little bit more? How does he not fit our scheme?


He is to compact and not lengthy, also he was short and really only had the job of penetrating the line as opposed to total run stuffer. We wanted someone taller with more length and more consistent in stuffing the run and in general doing it all. Fletcher Cox was fine in my book even though I admit he was not the best at stuffing people at the line, I thought penetration was fine for that. Surprisingly enough, they thought Coples would be the better DT.

Last year he would have been a perfect fit as we were more of an Eagles type D penetration in the insides but inability to stop the run with inside linemen, but now we are moving away from it, and if I am looking at things correctly possibly moving to a 3-4...and Cox would straight up just not fit in a 3-4. (He would play DE in a 3-4 but it is not a good fit.)

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:52 PM

He is to compact and not lengthy, also he was short and really only had the job of penetrating the line as opposed to total run stuffer. We wanted someone taller with more length and more consistent in stuffing the run and in general doing it all. Fletcher Cox was fine in my book even though I admit he was not the best at stuffing people at the line, I thought penetration was fine for that. Surprisingly enough, they thought Coples would be the better DT.

Last year he would have been a perfect fit as we were more of an Eagles type D penetration in the insides but inability to stop the run with inside linemen, but now we are moving away from it, and if I am looking at things correctly possibly moving to a 3-4...and Cox would straight up just not fit in a 3-4. (He would play DE in a 3-4 but it is not a good fit.)


Thanks bud :). Not sure they should move away from the Jim Johnson D since last year was a result of injuries, but we'll see what happens.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 09:54 PM

Verge, this is some serious knowledge you are dropping. perhaps even worth another thread. What else you got? anything...

who would play where in this 3-4 you speak of?


...........................or are you just fuging with us?

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:09 PM

Players at DT...questions,debate, players at DE...questions, debate, players at CB (after Claiborne)...questions, debate, players at LB...Luke Kuechly, period. If you stop loving on Beast and Davis for one minute and just look at this at face value, we got one bad MFer on defense that we help in multiple areas for a decade. Rivera/Hurney>Fox/Hurney...it is what it is brahs.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:14 PM

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:25 PM

Yea I think I have already given up on Otah, anyways good talk Lout. Refreshing when two people can have a decent conversation on the internet without getting at each other's throats


I agree. Don't get me wrong, if Otah has another setback, I will be the first one screaming for an OT in the draft. The FO feels that this is his year he will recover, so I have to expect they know more than I do.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:30 PM

Verge, please don't turn into an NJ. Not that I don't believe you about this, but if you begin to magically know the answer to every question a huddler manifests, I will call shenanigans.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:36 PM

Verge, please don't turn into an NJ. Not that I don't believe you about this, but if you begin to magically know the answer to every question a huddler manifests, I will call shenanigans.


all the cool kids are doing it. come on, do it. Do It.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:39 PM

all the cool kids are doing it. come on, do it. Do It.


We're going streaking through the quad to the gymnasium.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 10:41 PM

Verge, please don't turn into an NJ. Not that I don't believe you about this, but if you begin to magically know the answer to every question a huddler manifests, I will call shenanigans.


This is true, I get sceptical over 'insider information' too. I'm just buying into Verge's draft knowledge.

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Posted 01 May 2012 - 11:16 PM

Alright, I will not say anymore.

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Posted 20 April 2013 - 09:52 AM

1. Luke Kuechly
2. Morris Claiborne
3. Justin Blackmon
4. Quinton Coples
5. Matt Kalil
6. Bruce Irvin
7. Michael Brockers
8. Stephon Gilmore
9. Chandler Jones
10. Mark Barron


I thought we would have taken Barron if he was there but yet your source listed him as the last option?

Not trying to be a dick but are you an alt for njpanthers? There's other post's that make no sense when looking at your content if you actually had a source.

Normally I wouldn't care but to see your other thread go 16 pages and seemingly fooling much of the huddle I felt obligated to call you out while I sit here bored at work.