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Can We Stop Pretending That Ron Edwards Is Anything Special

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#61 csx

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:43 AM

Doubtful that we would play Edwards and Shirley at the same time. Both are the same type of player...large space eating NT type. You would typically play a quicker UT along side your NT....similar to McClain, Kearse, or Neblett.

But, you never know what Rivera will Di.


Kearse is much bigger than Edwards..

#62 Riverboat Ron

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:52 AM

I just want two giant blobs to play DT. Two 640 lbs. blobs, is that too much to ask for?

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#63 Ivan The Awesome

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:12 AM

This forum is for people to express opinions. No one here is acting like they know more than coaching staff. We are all passionate about the team.

So quit being an Internet bad ass. Quit being an asshole when you don't have anything to say about the thread.



LOL, yeah ok man. Whatever you say.

One thing is to be passionate another is to nitpick every god damn thing the team does or doesn't do. Look at the threads around here. Half of them are bashing a player, or a staff member. IF that's an opinion, then fine. But don't act like everything is hunky dory in the huddle and people don't bitch and complain about poo.

#64 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:13 AM

Fwiw, he has had more than one career injury. He has been placed on IR three times including last year. But two of those years were early in his career (when he played for Buffalo). Not that this makes him injury prone. I would guess this is about average for a DT.

I agree with the general sentiment here. We don't need him to be a superstar, just being solid will be a significant improvement. And a little teaching of our two young Dt's would be great.

#65 Jackofalltrades

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:20 AM

Agreed. He's old, injury prone, and wasn't much more than serviceable even when healthy. He can be a useful part of the rotation, but Hurney screwed up big by putting us in a position where we had to rely on him to prevent us from starting two rookies at DT.


Injury prone?

Where do you retards come up with this stuff? Morgan was injury prone, TD is injury prone, Ron Edwards is neither injury probe or a journeyman. He doesn't have to be a stud, all we need is someone who can stand their ground and let the DE's and LB's do their thing.

You're just not doing to have pro bowlers at every position or even at every level.

I think our DL will be pretty formidable this season.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:21 AM

The majority of you (myself included) have never even seen him play and are forming your opinion on hearsay. The guys that signed him though have.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:41 AM

Everyone? I stopped reading after that. Edwards is serviceable, nothing more, nothing less. There, I am not part of everyone, so you're OP is wrong.


Next time I will make sure to phrase all statements so that they fit all possible scenarios. My apologies. Perhaps we should just shut down the message board because no comments can be thoroughly prefaced enough to provide 100% accurate statements.

To be clear, I did not create this thread to in any way bash Edwards. I think he will help. I created this thread because it seemed like his name was coming up in way to many threads/arguments around here, like he would be a savior. He is not that. He is someone who will collect blocks and play a role. He will be just ok at that role. If me saying that means I dont understand the system we have played and/or are supposed to play, then you are the retard, not me.

Never was it said that we needed a pro bowler at every position. That assumption was made by others apparently disagreeing with my claims about edwards. Never did I say we even necessarily needed an upgrade over Edwards. I also never said he was injury prone, just that he was injured last year which is a fact.

And re: mcclain/fua. Yes they should improve, but no they were not good last year. And yes Kearse, Neblett etc played pretty well- Neblett for two years now.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:44 AM

He doesn't have to be an amazing player...he just needs to stay healthy and be strong enough to occupy multiple offensive linemen.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:57 AM

Just a quick survey here, have ANY of you seen him play? I haven't.

#70 Ivan The Awesome

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:08 AM

Just a quick survey here, have ANY of you seen him play? I haven't.


Only seen him on TV once. Not youtube. When I caught a SD vs KC game. Even then I don't have enough to call him injury prone or say he's not worth a damn like some do around here.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:11 AM

Injury prone?

Where do you retards come up with this stuff? Morgan was injury prone, TD is injury prone, Ron Edwards is neither injury probe or a journeyman. He doesn't have to be a stud, all we need is someone who can stand their ground and let the DE's and LB's do their thing.

You're just not doing to have pro bowlers at every position or even at every level.

I think our DL will be pretty formidable this season.

I don't give a poo what he did years ago when he was a young man, when you are on the wrong side of 30 and you miss an ENTIRE season you are injury prone.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:22 AM

Next time I will make sure to phrase all statements so that they fit all possible scenarios. My apologies. Perhaps we should just shut down the message board because no comments can be thoroughly prefaced enough to provide 100% accurate statements.

To be clear, I did not create this thread to in any way bash Edwards. I think he will help. I created this thread because it seemed like his name was coming up in way to many threads/arguments around here, like he would be a savior. He is not that. He is someone who will collect blocks and play a role. He will be just ok at that role. If me saying that means I dont understand the system we have played and/or are supposed to play, then you are the retard, not me.

Never was it said that we needed a pro bowler at every position. That assumption was made by others apparently disagreeing with my claims about edwards. Never did I say we even necessarily needed an upgrade over Edwards. I also never said he was injury prone, just that he was injured last year which is a fact.

And re: mcclain/fua. Yes they should improve, but no they were not good last year. And yes Kearse, Neblett etc played pretty well- Neblett for two years now.


You said EVERYONE on the huddle considers him a stud. NO ONE has ever called him a stud. No, you are not saying anything new. MOST people on the huddle dont even know who Edwards is or has ever seen him play. MOST somewhat intelligent huddlers know he is not a pro bowl NT, but the truth is, he has been a starter in this league a long time, and you dont last in this league that long as a starter unless you have some skill. Last year was a fluke injury b/c he has never missed that much time in his career.

I dont even understand why this thread was even made, there are plenty with similar thoughts. But congrats for thinking you are different than EVERYONE else.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:01 PM

I dont even understand why this thread was even made, there are plenty with similar thoughts. But congrats for thinking you are different than EVERYONE else.


The above is exactly why this thread was made. I think all educated/mature, fans/posters realize that Edwards was brought in because he was a quality starter, who played the NT in a 3-4 for KC and would've immediately upgraded our NT position in our 4-3, and been there to mentor our young rookies. Aside from that the additions we signed (Frank Kearse, etc.) showed a lot of promise and there's no way to determine their talent and value by bringing in more DT's when the staff already has players they believe in, cost less, and show promise. LB was more of a need than DT considering Beason, and Davis' injuries, combined with the lack of depth we have there. Even with all that playing time no one emerged like James Anderson did last season when he filled in full-time after Davis' injury.

Shockey was viewed as injury prone before we signed him, and he missed what 2-3 games last season. I guess Gettis, and Beason are now injury prone as well, but I'll tell you who is TD, and Dan Connor. The lack of vision some of these posters have is astonishing, and shows an inability to see past their own personal feelings towards a situation...kinda like a female, just saying.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 12:55 PM

This board must be loaded with da hoes

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 01:02 PM

To be clear, I did not create this thread to in any way bash Edwards. I think he will help. I created this thread because it seemed like his name was coming up in way to many threads/arguments around here, like he would be a savior. He is not that. He is someone who will collect blocks and play a role. He will be just ok at that role. If me saying that means I dont understand the system we have played and/or are supposed to play, then you are the retard, not me.


It's not okay for people to think he will be great, but it's okay for you to think he'll be average?

you shouldn't keep that time machine to yourself...



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