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[Dpantherman]

Hey, im having a good today so I'll just leave it be. Big day tomorrow

[Highlandfire]

they can be sued either way .. and the evidence can be obtained through the discovery process via subpoena

I doubt the other players will sue .. but they should IMO

Agreed they should. I would also hope they pursue criminal charges

[Peppers90 NC]

favre should turn the tides on his pending lawsuit by suing the nfl, the refs and stains players for allowing and being part of his final demise

[TheRed]

Apparently favre and other former players are totally irrelevant in the eyes of the nflpa. For the nflpa to fiercely defend players whom sought out to purposely injure other players and reward for major injuries, that says all you need go know about that organization.

It sounds even more ignorant when players themselves advocate this in tweets and interviews as normal and okay and everyone does it. If the shoe is on the other foot though, who thinks they would be totally okay with having their career and possibly their income ended for a few thousand dollars and one game win?

At the end of the day I have a hard time feeling sorry for anyone in all this.

[Argus Plexus]

This isn't a court its a business. Your boss can fire you anytime he wants and he doesnt have to tell you poo

[xtheronx]

This isn't a court its a business. Your boss can fire you anytime he wants and he doesnt have to tell you poo

yeah .. but then you can sue for wrongful termination

[Argus Plexus]

yeah .. but then you can sue for wrongful termination

Good luck proving anything

[xtheronx]

Good luck proving anything

actually .. burden of proof would be on employer

[xtheronx]

Good luck proving anything

that's why u document employees out .. instead of firing them for no reason

[Humble Dew]

And no one spoke to you at all during the process. If this doesn't send shivers down your spine then you are not being honest. Both J. Vilma and W. Smith have publicly stated that

Smith:Through this entire process, the NFL never notified me of what I was being accused of, nor presented me with any evidence or reasoning for this decision. I am interested in discovering who is making these specific and false accusations, and as well as why a decision was made without speaking with me

Viloma:"I am shocked and extremely disappointed by the NFL's decision to suspend me for the 2012 season. Commissioner Roger Goodell has refused to share any of the supposed evidence he claims supports this unprecedented punishment. The reason is clear: I never paid, or intended to pay, $10,000, or any amount of money, to any player for knocking Kurt Warner, Brett Favre or any other player, out of the 2009 divisional playoff game, 2010 NFC Championship Game, or any other game.

Sounds like they didn't want him to know what to lie about.

[Argus Plexus]

that's why u document employees out .. instead of firing them for no reason

If my boss wanted me gone, id be gone.

[MadHatter]

yeah .. but then you can sue for wrongful termination

No you can't... unless you can prove discrimination.

Most states are right to work states...which means that a company can fire you at ANY time and for ANY reason....unless it violates discrimination laws.

The real world sucks that way, but you had better get used to it.

[MadHatter]

that's why u document employees out .. instead of firing them for no reason

No, you do that to cover your ass in a discrimination suit. With the number of protected groups, that is a real concern.

But, outside that, they can fire you for any and even no reason.

[Savoir Faire]

yeah .. but then you can sue for wrongful termination

Only if you can prove it was related to sex, race, religion, etc. It's not wrongful termination if your boss simply doesn't like the color shirt you wore that day or didn't like something (and that can be anything) you did.

These guys are going to have to start by establishing that they have not agreed to the process that the league is following. The league is going to claim this is part of the personal conduct sections of the CBA. If the court agrees with the league, the players agreed to the process so thisgoes through Goodell for the appeal. I'm not sure after that if there is another level of appeal.

[xtheronx]

No, you do that to cover your ass in a discrimination suit. With the number of protected groups, that is a real concern.

But, outside that, they can fire you for any and even no reason.

na .. It's for any employee in a - non employment at will state .. if you have employees in more than one state (like nfl) you should comply with the the strictest laws of the strictest state you do business in .. as a rule of thumb

it could be anything .. including discrimination .. but you actually have to incur damages .. otherwise there's no remedy other than an equitable remedy from the court

also .. if you're a contracted employee it doesn't matter if the state is employment at will or not .. courts allow people the freedom to contract around certain items including employment terms