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#16 panthers55

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:06 PM

The roles outlined are about a 4-3 in general not as specifically noted to what we run as our base defense which is a Jim Johnson 4-3 under .
http://www.catscratchreader.com/2012/2/28/2831884/the-panthers-defense-a-treatise-on-the-jim-johnson-4-3-part-i

http://www.catscratchreader.com/2012/3/3/2840467/the-panthers-defense-a-treatise-on-the-jim-johnson-4-3-part-ii

http://bleacherrepor...d-ryan-defenses


The biggest question though is how well will both Beason and Davis play given the injuries. We can't assume either will be able to do everything noted in those combine times given they are both coming off major injuries. This post assumes they are both 100% of what they were coming out of college which may not be close to what they can do. They will be put where they are best utilized based on their current abilities and strengths not where they were a few years ago or when they came into the league.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:21 PM

Thomas Davis ran like a 4.47 back in 2010 after his 1st acl tear.

http://sports.espn.g...=nfl&id=5248366

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:33 PM

Thomas Davis ran like a 4.47 back in 2010 after his 1st acl tear.

http://sports.espn.g...=nfl&id=5248366


How was his 3 cone then, which tells you more about his lateral speed not straight line speed which is always the easiest to regain on an ACL.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 03:41 PM

I dont really care about Beason's experience in the MIKE, as I think Kuechly could be inserted there and play great as well.

i don't care how smart kuechly is....there would be some learning curve that would hold back the defense compared to the way it would be if beason were in the middle running things.

don't take lightly the knowledge beason has because of his experience.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 04:39 PM

In a true JJ43 the MLB blitzes more than the WLB I believe.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 04:41 PM

I don't care who plays MLB this year....but it is pretty clear Luke will take it over eventually if he turns out to be what Carolina believes he is....people need to accept that obvious reality.





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Posted 09 May 2012 - 04:56 PM

Personally I would never ev en consider moving a vet like Beason in favor of a rook. I do believe that they all will rotate based on the scheme, but primarily to get Kuechly on the field.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:25 PM

Personally I would never ev en consider moving a vet like Beason in favor of a rook. I do believe that they all will rotate based on the scheme, but primarily to get Kuechly on the field.


If Beason were not coming off a major injury, I don't think there would be any question that he would stay in the middle. But he is.

I think that RR will make the call based on how Beason comes back. Mike LB plays sideline to sideline. If Beason has lost a step, he could very well be moved outside.

WR will have to wait and see. Either way, I live our LB corps.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:29 PM

If hes not 100% healthy he shouldnt be playing any LB position...

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:34 PM

If Beason were not coming off a major injury, I don't think there would be any question that he would stay in the middle. But he is.

I think that RR will make the call based on how Beason comes back. Mike LB plays sideline to sideline. If BrDon has list a step, he could very well be moved outside.

WR will have to wait and see. Either way, I live our LB corps.

after finally understandin what you were trying to say, I agree, but moving Beason to me, wouldn't be a consideration until after I see how he comes back!

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:36 PM

i don't care how smart kuechly is....there would be some learning curve that would hold back the defense compared to the way it would be if beason were in the middle running things.

don't take lightly the knowledge beason has because of his experience.


The bigger question might be what the learning curve will be for all the linebackers depending on how different this scheme will be from what they ran under Fox. Neither Beason or Davis got to play last year although you assume that they got a lot out of attending meetings and watching film and practice. Assuming we installed much of the defense last year. I got the sense we ran a pretty vanilla defense which is only a shadow of what we will run this year. It should be a big learning curve for all the defensive guys.

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:38 PM

after finally understandin what you were trying to say, I agree, but moving Beason to me, wouldn't be a consideration until after I see how he comes back!


Question.

Let's say Beason as an individually a better player at MLB than WLB.

That said, let's also assume for the question that Rivera can put together the best overall D on the field if moves Beason to WLB.

Do you want Beason at WLB or MLB under that scenario?

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:39 PM

Saw it was Dash, left the thread

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:42 PM

Question.

Let's say Beason as an individually a better player at MLB than WLB.

That said, let's also assume for the question that Rivera can put together the best overall D on the field if moves Beason to WLB.

Do you want Beason at WLB or MLB under that scenario?



No question, you go with whatever setup,that gives you the best D possible. If that means Beason at WLB so be it. Still think Kuechly will be a better WLB than Beason

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 05:42 PM

Question.

Let's say Beason as an individually a better player at MLB than WLB.

That said, let's also assume for the question that Rivera can put together the best overall D on the field if moves Beason to WLB.

Do you want Beason at WLB or MLB under that scenario?

that's a hypothetical question. Beason is our MLB, unless his injury prevents it.


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