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#1 Boltergeist

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 07:58 PM

The chair seems to have a beef with the new TV deal

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 10:04 PM

I think I saw they are in the red as an athletic dept. If that's the case might as well take the extra money from big 12. Lots of smoke around clemson too

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 10:10 PM

Really, FSU is openly begging for the Big 12? They must be pretty desperate to consider such an unimpressive move. Maybe if their football team was actually good they could work their way into the SEC or the Big 10+

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 10:31 PM

Really, FSU is openly begging for the Big 12?  They must be pretty desperate to consider such an unimpressive move.  Maybe if their football team was actually good they could work their way into the SEC or the Big 10+


I guess it depends what you consider unimpressive but the rumor going around was that if the big 12 could get fsu/clemson they payout would likely be close to 30 million per team. That compared to the 17 million in the acc I don't think that's so unimpressive. As for the why they don't go to the sec the rumor on that was that they would not have the votes to get in thanks to the supposed handshake between south carolina, georgia, and florida. And if these moves happen the big 12>big 10

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 10:34 PM

The reality was bad, however. The initial bump in television revenue is actually just over $1 million a year, sources said, and a total in the $12 million range next season. The deal is back loaded so the bigger money comes in escalator provisions that, considering how broadcast rights keep growing, probably will be below market by the time any sizeable gains are realized.
That additional $4 million per school, per year? That won't come until 2021, nine years in, sources said.

http://sports.yahoo....oin-big-12.html

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 10:38 PM

I guess it depends what you consider unimpressive but the rumor going around was that if the big 12 could get fsu/clemson they payout would likely be close to 30 million per team. That compared to the 17 million in the acc I don't think that's so unimpressive. As for the why they don't go to the sec the rumor on that was that they would not have the votes to get in thanks to the supposed handshake between south carolina, georgia, and florida. And if these moves happen the big 12>big 10


You think adding Clemson and FSU would equal a 50% increase in the Big 12's deal? Please, the SEC doesnt get that much and they actually have good teams. But then again, FSU has managed to make one Peach Bowl appearance in the last 6 years, so clearly they are a force to be reckoned with.

Thats not to say FSU couldnt make more money in the big 12 (they would), but I have a hard time taking it seriously as an elite football conference after Nebraska and Missouri just left

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 10:47 PM

You think adding Clemson and FSU would equal a 50% increase in the Big 12's deal? Please, the SEC doesnt get that much and they actually have good teams.  But then again, FSU has managed to make one Peach Bowl appearance in the last 6 years, so clearly they are a force to be reckoned with.

Thats not to say FSU couldnt make more money in the big 12 (they would), but I have a hard time taking it seriously as an elite football conference after Nebraska and Missouri just left


I didn't come up with that number myself. Just what's been mentioned. Also, that 21 million does not include the tier 3 rights. Unlike the acc the big 12 kept it's tier 3 rights separate. I'm not an expert by any means but once you factor that in I don't think it's far fetched. Now that Wetzel dropped the bomb that the acc doesn't even get that full deal for another 9 years I have no doubt this will be quite a bump in pay. I know I mentioned clemson because they're most commonly linked with fsu but that article and many others now suggest it could be miami and honestly if any combinations of those happen I could see others jumping ship.

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 11:00 PM

Eh, if they want to go thats fine, I just feel its a desperate move from the timing. They are selling low, so to speak, trying to force a move in the middle of their worse run since Bowden started running the show. The FSU brand is certainly far less appealing than it was 10 years ago

I also find it funny that they complain about the ACC's Carolina-centric moves while trying to push a move to a conference that at this point could probably change its name to 'Texas and friends'

Oh, and if the Big 12 is really that much better than the ACC in football, then I hope FSU is ready for some 6 and 7 win seasons

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 11:08 PM

Eh, if they want to go thats fine, I just feel its a desperate move from the timing. They are selling low, so to speak, trying to force a move in the middle of their worse run since Bowden started running the show. The FSU brand is certainly far less appealing than it was 10 years ago

I also find it funny that they complain about the ACC's Carolina-centric moves while trying to push a move to a conference that at this point could probably change its name to 'Texas and friends'

Oh, and if the Big 12 is really that much better than the ACC in football, then I hope FSU is ready for some 6 and 7 win seasons

Haha couldn't agree more. I think every conference has their teams or connections who kinda run the show. The acc is apparently the carolinas connection. The big east loved its basketball only schools referred to as the rhode island boys. Then of course the big 12 has texas which runs the show. FSU could avoid those mediocre seasons if they get enough teams to split divisions though. I mean there's a good chance then that they wouldn't even have to face a texas or oklahoma unless they reached the big 12 championship game. Although, that would all depend on how they structured divisions as well as cross conference rival game. Will def be interesting to see how it plays out. I saw the fsu ad has already tried to throw water on the situation

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Posted 12 May 2012 - 11:10 PM

"Florida State University regrets that misinformation about the provisions of the ACC contract has unnecessarily renewed the controversy and speculation about University's athletic conference alignment. Florida State respects the views of the Chair of its Board of Trustees that, of course, any university would examine options that would impact university academics, athletics or finances. At the same time, Florida State is not seeking an alternative to the ACC nor are we considering alternatives. Our current commitments remain strong."

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