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#16 B wood

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 08:12 AM

There are 5 people in a rotation, not just 2. Nationals are #1 in ERA in the league, with a team 2.94 era, #2 in quality starts, #1 in WHIP, and #1 in opp. batting average. Giants are 3rd/7th/5th/6th in those categories. Still pretty good, but definitely not the best rotation.


Strasburg is still recovering from a major injury. Cain & Bumgarner are cold-blooded killers with a World Series title. Numbers aren't everything. In a 7 game series I'd take SF everytime.

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Zito
Lincecum

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:16 AM

Numbers mean a lot when you are #1 in era and #1 in opponent's batting avg. Playoffs, maybe they are better, but right now, Nationals AND Dodgers, are better. May be different at the end of the season though.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 11:44 AM

Strasburg is still recovering from a major injury. Cain & Bumgarner are cold-blooded killers with a World Series title. Numbers aren't everything. In a 7 game series I'd take SF everytime.

Bumgarner
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Zito
Lincecum


LOL this fool doesn't know what he's talking about he doesn't even watch baseball.

Lol... I could care less dude. I just watch when he pitches. A few of us flew out last summer to watch a game & SF is full of wackos. Strange city. Their team overall isn't that good. They just have really good pitchers. Although Lincecum continued his horrible season tonight..


This was posted by him earlier in the thread, by his previous account that was banned. He only posted this thread because he supposedly went to elementary school with Madison Bumgartner and now that Cain pitched that perfect game and their only 3 and half games behind he's hopping on the wagon.

When the fug are you just going to leave for good?

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 04:25 PM

Numbers mean a lot when you are #1 in era and #1 in opponent's batting avg. Playoffs, maybe they are better, but right now, Nationals AND Dodgers, are better. May be different at the end of the season though.


That was kind of my point. In the playoffs I would take those guys over anybody else. Tim Lincecum is 2-7 with a +6era. If he can return to his old form they would be the #1 rotation by far. He is really struggling.


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Posted 14 June 2012 - 07:25 PM

Right now that would probably be the Nationals.


This. Probably isn't the right word though, it's definitely.

Strasburg and Gio are both legitimate aces. Jordan Zimmermann is a really good #2 even though he's in the 3 spot. Edwin Jackson is pitching very well right now, although I see him finishing the season with a 3.5-4 ERA, but as of now he's pitching great. #5 spot is inconsistent with Wang and Detwiler but for a #5 they are reasonably decent.

They also drafted the highest ceiling pitcher in the draft this year so the future of this staff is even better.

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Posted 14 June 2012 - 09:30 PM

I hate the frickin SF Giants with a passion.
But I can respect what they did their World Championship year with their young, home grown pitching staff. They deserved what they got. Great pitching>great hitting every time.
Washington, Los Angeles and San Fransisco are 1, 2 and 3 in staff ERA in the National League at the momenet.
I laugh my ass off at Phillie's 4.0 plus staff ERA.
Should be a great race this summer.

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Posted 15 June 2012 - 03:33 AM

This. Probably isn't the right word though, it's definitely.

Strasburg and Gio are both legitimate aces. Jordan Zimmermann is a really good #2 even though he's in the 3 spot. Edwin Jackson is pitching very well right now, although I see him finishing the season with a 3.5-4 ERA, but as of now he's pitching great. #5 spot is inconsistent with Wang and Detwiler but for a #5 they are reasonably decent.

They also drafted the highest ceiling pitcher in the draft this year so the future of this staff is even better.


SF Giants finished #1 in ERA in '10, 2nd in '11, & are currently #5 this season. I would take Cain over Strasburg then Bumgarner over Gio anyday. Barry Zito is having an excellent season. Tim Lincecum is struggling, but he's a two time Cy Young winner. In a 7 game series I'd put my money on SF beating Washington & their staff. SF shut down a very powerful Texas team in the WS.



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Posted 17 June 2012 - 12:03 AM

Hahaha holy poo Lincecum is bad...

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 03:28 AM

SF Ace & 2x CY Young Award winner is playing that bad, yet SF rotation is still better than LA.

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Posted 17 June 2012 - 06:40 PM

Another great outing for Bumgarner;

8IP 3H 1R 0ER 1BB 4SO... no decision

1-1 in the 9th & SF fails to score with the bases loaded & 1 out. Seattle knocks 1 in & steals the win.

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 02:41 PM

So the Giants have 2 guys with an ERA above 4(one with an ERA over 6) while the Nationals have 4 guys with an ERA under 3 and their 5th pitcher has a low 3's ERA.

Who has the best rotation again?

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 03:22 PM

So the Giants have 2 guys with an ERA above 4(one with an ERA over 6) while the Nationals have 4 guys with an ERA under 3 and their 5th pitcher has a low 3's ERA.

Who has the best rotation again?


SF

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 03:27 PM

SF


rofl, homers gonna homer

Cain vs. Strasburg is the only advantage SF has, and that's only because Cain can go deep into games and isn't on an innings limit. Stras will be the best pitcher in baseball within the next few years.

Gio, Zimmermann, EJax, and Detwiler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lincecum, Vogelsong, Bumgarner, and Zito

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Posted 24 June 2012 - 03:56 PM

rofl, homers gonna homer

Cain vs. Strasburg is the only advantage SF has, and that's only because Cain can go deep into games and isn't on an innings limit. Stras will be the best pitcher in baseball within the next few years.

Gio, Zimmermann, EJax, and Detwiler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lincecum, Vogelsong, Bumgarner, and Zito


Cain > Strasburg > Bumgarner > Gio > Zimmerman > Vogelsong

Right now Cain & Bumgarner is the best 1-2 punch in baseball. You keep bringing up Lincecum & Zito. In a playoff series neither of them would see the field.

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Posted 25 June 2012 - 01:59 AM

Cain > Strasburg > Bumgarner > Gio > Zimmerman > Vogelsong

Right now Cain & Bumgarner is the best 1-2 punch in baseball. You keep bringing up Lincecum & Zito. In a playoff series neither of them would see the field.


What? See below.

I would take Bumgarner & Cain over any other 1-2 punch in baseball. Barry Zito is also pitching excellent this season.

Bumgarner & Cain are two of the most underrated pitchers in the majors.

Strasburg is still recovering from a major injury. Cain & Bumgarner are cold-blooded killers with a World Series title. Numbers aren't everything. In a 7 game series I'd take SF everytime.

Bumgarner
Cain
Zito
Lincecum

That was kind of my point. In the playoffs I would take those guys over anybody else. Tim Lincecum is 2-7 with a +6era. If he can return to his old form they would be the #1 rotation by far. He is really struggling.

SF Giants finished #1 in ERA in '10, 2nd in '11, & are currently #5 this season. I would take Cain over Strasburg then Bumgarner over Gio anyday. Barry Zito is having an excellent season. Tim Lincecum is struggling, but he's a two time Cy Young winner. In a 7 game series I'd put my money on SF beating Washington & their staff. SF shut down a very powerful Texas team in the WS.

SF Ace & 2x CY Young Award winner is playing that bad, yet SF rotation is still better than LA.


I'm the one who keeps bringing up Lincecum and Zito? lulz. You said best rotation. Best rotation does not mean best 1-2 punch(which by the way is debatable and Strasburg & Gio crush Cain & Bumgarner in WAR with 6 vs. 4.5). Nationals have a better ROTATION than the Giants and it's not even close.


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