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#46 Davidson Deac II

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:19 PM

I don't see this big 12/SEC thing as such a big deal. They basically redid this years cotton bowl and made it permanent. While it wasn't a bad game, I hardly think a matchup similar to Arkansas and Kstate is going to kill a conference.

Fwiw, if FSU and Clemson hate the ACC for being Carolina centric, they are going to loathe the big 12 where its Texas maybe Oklahoma, and 10 other interchangeable schools.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 03:58 PM

Do you think that USC would ever allow Clemson into the SEC? Are you fuging kidding me! I know they don't have the final saying but the outrage from the admin, booster, alumni, etc would be intense. USC has the upper hand in recruiting the state finally and if Clemson were added that could change.


lol... the SEC doesn't give a flying-fug what South Carolina wants. Clemson has a larger market of fans in college football. South Carolina has no leverage. They already play every season anyway. It would actually make the game matter now.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:30 PM

Rehash a good read from the last time the conferences were realigning.

http://thequad.blogs...lignment-chaos/

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 04:48 PM

It would actually make the game matter now.


Lol go tell that to USC and tiger fans

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 07:54 PM

Big xii meetings are at the end of this month. Expansion will be discussed. They might for the new commissioner to start before formal invites would be in july. Bigxii will be around for atleast 13 year all the teams signed over their tv rights for that long except tier 3 rights

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 08:03 PM

ACC a super power is funny. Basketball they have some power but football they don't. Smallest tv contract obaaf any major conference basketball doesn't drive conferences anymore football does

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 10:43 PM

Here's one writer who thinks fsu and Clemson jump and it's not bleacher report.

Florida State and Clemson will move to the Big 12.
Once upon a time, tradition, geography and commitment counted for something. But the last two years have proved that money makes the decisions. There's one other issue at play -- Florida State and Clemson are football-first athletic departments. The ACC loves its hoops. The next question -- does the ACC look to raid the Big East? Of course it does.

http://espn.go.com/n...00-days-kickoff

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 03:48 AM

FSU has already stated they are looking to go Big 12. clemson and ga tech have been trying to go SEC for yrs now. they wont ever be allowed to since south carolina and georgia fight against letting them in. i would say FSU is close to leaving though

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 09:44 AM

FSU has already stated they are looking to go Big 12.


No, the school hasn't said anything of the sort. A couple of individuals have said they should look, but thats about it. And those individuals have backed off their original statements to an extent. The media and message boards are the one that took this and added a lot of wild speculation.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 09:51 AM

No, the school hasn't said anything of the sort. A couple of individuals have said they should look, but thats about it. The media is the one that took this and added a lot of wild speculation.


Actually, the Chairman of the Board of Florida State Board of Trustees has said that the board would be unanimously in favor of the move to the Big XII. And while he says that no official talks have occurred, Jimbo Fischer has said he's open to a conference move if it makes the most financial sense for the school.

While neither of these are definite indications of the school's willingness to move, they are voices that are going to be heard. The move would make a lot of financial sense for FSU.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 09:58 AM

Yup. Totally agree.

Still wondering where Squirrel get all that info from those 6-7 teams leaving the ACC. Boston College to Ivy League? LOFL!

NCSU will never, ever leave the ACC.

From everything I've read, I'd say there is a 60% chance Clemson and FSU are gone.

Some of the other schools he mentioned are rumored to have had discussions with the Big XII and Big 10, but I'd say they're less likely to leave.

If Clemson and FSU leave, the ACC will grab UConn and Rutgers. At that point, football in the ACC will be complete dog poo and VT will do everything possible to leave.

If a worst case scenario takes place, the two schools in the most jeopardy in the ACC are Duke and Wake. Duke's basketball is certainly attractive, but their football is awful. Wake is just a small school that has had good seasons in both basketball and football, but has little to actually show for it. Wake has what, one Final Four in the 60's? Their football was good a few years ago, but not really good enough to be attractive to a conference like the Big XII or Big X.

I don't see the ACC ever really falling apart entirely, but I certainly seeing it falling from grace as one of the power conferences. Football runs things and ACC football that was already bad will be Big East like if FSU and Clemson leave. At least they always have basketball...

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 10:00 AM

No, the school hasn't said anything of the sort. A couple of individuals have said they should look, but thats about it. The media is the one that took this and added a lot of wild speculation.

Usually where there is smoke there is fire. There has been A LOT of smoke around Clemson and FSU leaving.

I've been keeping up with the realignment very closely and a lot of the rumors that come out actually do have legs.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 10:03 AM

It's certainly interesting to think FSU to the Big XII from a financial standpoint, but could FSU have success in the Big XII?

FSU has brought in a top 10 recruiting class every year since 2008, but has failed to manage any semblance of success in a mediocre ACC. If they have to compete with the likes of Oklahoma, Okie State, Texas, and TCU every season, how will they find any success?

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 10:14 AM

It's certainly interesting to think FSU to the Big XII from a financial standpoint, but could FSU have success in the Big XII?

FSU has brought in a top 10 recruiting class every year since 2008, but has failed to manage any semblance of success in a mediocre ACC. If they have to compete with the likes of Oklahoma, Okie State, Texas, and TCU every season, how will they find any success?

It's all about money. A lot of athletic departments have budget problems.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 10:28 AM

Actually, the Chairman of the Board of Florida State Board of Trustees has said that the board would be unanimously in favor of the move to the Big XII. And while he says that no official talks have occurred, Jimbo Fischer has said he's open to a conference move if it makes the most financial sense for the school.

While neither of these are definite indications of the school's willingness to move, they are voices that are going to be heard. The move would make a lot of financial sense for FSU.


And both of them later backed off of those statements.

The drama began this past weekend, when board of trustees chairman Andy Haggard said in a published interview he was unhappy with the new TV deal the ACC received.
But Haggard was misinformed on several points and since has backed off his initial comments. Fisher did not help matters when he told The Orlando Sentinel on May 12 that Florida State had to do what was in the best interest of the program.
Fisher tried to back away from those comments at the ACC spring meetings. Meanwhile, Texas athletic director DeLoss Dodds told The Austin American-Statesman that there had been no conversations between Florida State and the Big 12


As far as it making financial sense, thats not a given. The current contract which is rumored to be 3 million more per team than what the ACC is getting would probably not be enough due to increased travel expenses for all sports. In fact, according to what the president of FSU said, that might be a net loss. Right now, the basketball and baseball teams (and other sports) can take a bus to 5 or 6 ACC schools, but that wouldn't be the case if they join the Big 12. The move making financial sense would be depenendent on how much additional money the big 12 would get per team for adding FSU and another ACC team.


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