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#1 Irv

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:22 AM

My cousin recently got honorably discharged after 8 years in the army and for the past 6 months has been struggling to find work. What is it with businesses not wanting to hire proven veterans that have the ability to lead and work hard. Now i already know how big of an issue this is Nationally but it just makes no damn since to me.

#2 mmmbeans

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:25 AM

i think everyone has been struggling to find work, not just veterans.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:25 AM

being able to lead and work hard isn't enough anymore. For anyone. Not just vets.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:32 AM

being able to lead and work hard isn't enough anymore. For anyone. Not just vets.


this

#5 Inimicus

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:37 AM

Because if Im going to bring someone into the office environment that may one day go postal I want to make sure they don't have years of training on how to kill me.

#6 Mrs Pantherfan

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:41 AM

it's all about who you blow..not what you know

#7 Niner National

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:44 AM

Why do people assume vets make great leaders? I'm not talking about your cousin necessarily because I don't know what his rank or position in the armed forces was, but generally most in the military are order takers, not order givers. If I'm hiring, I want a free thinker and someone that can do things on their own. I don't want someone I have to constantly give orders to.

I'm also probably a bit biased against vets because the only people that I personally know that went into the military were C- students.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 11:18 AM

it's all about who you blow..not what you know


yep...it's not the paper "application" that sells you to a potential employer.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 11:23 AM

Probably because there are more qualified persons for the job. The same reason my dad told my brother not to get too caught up in what his college professors preach to him. If 3 people apply for a job & one has a college degree, one is a 10 year military vet, & one has 20 years experience in that particular job field who do you think is gonna get the job?

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 11:26 AM

There are programs available to help Vets and there are a lot of companies willing to give them a bit of an edge because they served. I belong to a couple of Vet groups and they are always looking out. Irv, PM me your FB account and I can help point you in the right direction.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 11:42 AM

Because if Im going to bring someone into the office environment that may one day go postal I want to make sure they don't have years of training on how to kill me.


Well learn how to treat people

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 11:43 AM

Why do people assume vets make great leaders? I'm not talking about your cousin necessarily because I don't know what his rank or position in the armed forces was, but generally most in the military are order takers, not order givers. If I'm hiring, I want a free thinker and someone that can do things on their own. I don't want someone I have to constantly give orders to.

I'm also probably a bit biased against vets because the only people that I personally know that went into the military were C- students.


like the president?

#13 charlotte49er

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 01:23 PM

Why do people assume vets make great leaders? I'm not talking about your cousin necessarily because I don't know what his rank or position in the armed forces was, but generally most in the military are order takers, not order givers. If I'm hiring, I want a free thinker and someone that can do things on their own. I don't want someone I have to constantly give orders to.

I'm also probably a bit biased against vets because the only people that I personally know that went into the military were C- students.


If they can do the job, I don't care what grades they got in school. (OK, maybe to a certain point.)

Generally speaking, the vets I know have a 100% better work ethic than the Gen Y'ers. (Even Gen X'ers.) I worked with a bunch of younger engineers at IBM that said they were entitled to take 10 sick days a year. To them, that was extra vacation. In the military, you'd better be on your death bed not to report for duty. I have also found that most vets have a strong loyalty to Family, God and Country.

Dating back to WWI, Vets have always had a hard time finding jobs after a war. (I'm not going to go into how poorly Vietnam Vets were treated! I remember my Sister asking a neighbor who had served in 'Nam and she went to High School with and even had a couple of dates with. "How many babies did you kill over there?" F'ing piece of work she was!)

Of course, that doesn't make it right!

#14 Niner National

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 01:41 PM

If they can do the job, I don't care what grades they got in school. (OK, maybe to a certain point.)

Generally speaking, the vets I know have a 100% better work ethic than the Gen Y'ers. (Even Gen X'ers.) I worked with a bunch of younger engineers at IBM that said they were entitled to take 10 sick days a year.

A lot of Generation X and Y'ers just realize that a 40 hour work week is bullshit. It's an arbitrary number that was developed years ago and is largely irrelevant today. Efficiency advancements have made work so much easier than most people only need 15-20 hours to accomplish what previously took a week.

In a given week, I finish my entire week's work load in 8-10 hours.

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Posted 24 May 2012 - 01:43 PM

so, you sit around and f*ck off for 4 days a week?


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