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#46 catfang

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 10:42 AM

lol this is just pathetic. fug the Saints*

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 10:55 AM

Actually it is quite relevant. Since there was supposedly 3 payouts of $1000 for this game and the only person that was injured was a defensive player that was untouched this ledger only proves that if these payouts happened it wasn't for injuring players. This means it wasn't a bounty system but a pay for performance system which has been common practice throughout the league that many teams and players have openly admitted to. So now, why are the Saints** the lone team being punished and why is the NFL trying to spin it as a bounty system?

Why has the NFL gone so far out there way claiming all these pay for injuries happened but refuse to release any evidence? Why has the NFL claimed they have rock solid evidence and each time they leak the evidence to the media it only seams to help the Saints** case? Why is the NFLPA, the players (league wide) and the Saints** players screaming foul at the top of their lungs? Why did the lead investigator for the NFL resign during this case? Why did the NFL pay an "expert" to come in and say they have solid evidence and claim the evidence was something completely different than what it actually is?

If the Saints** did in fact have a bounty system in place like the league is claiming then why not just release the evidence so we can all just move on instead of attracting multiple lawsuits and fighting it out in court and the media for months?


Yahoo reports states ledger showed 1000k for a cart off and defined it as an opponent being helped off the field. That implies a hit that resulted in someone being helped off after a hit.....but was able to comeback counted

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Posted 02 June 2012 - 12:14 PM

Actually it is quite relevant. Since there was supposedly 3 payouts of $1000 for this game and the only person that was injured was a defensive player that was untouched this ledger only proves that if these payouts happened it wasn't for injuring players. This means it wasn't a bounty system but a pay for performance system which has been common practice throughout the league that many teams and players have openly admitted to. So now, why are the Saints** the lone team being punished and why is the NFL trying to spin it as a bounty system?

Why has the NFL gone so far out there way claiming all these pay for injuries happened but refuse to release any evidence? Why has the NFL claimed they have rock solid evidence and each time they leak the evidence to the media it only seams to help the Saints** case? Why is the NFLPA, the players (league wide) and the Saints** players screaming foul at the top of their lungs? Why did the lead investigator for the NFL resign during this case? Why did the NFL pay an "expert" to come in and say they have solid evidence and claim the evidence was something completely different than what it actually is?

If the Saints** did in fact have a bounty system in place like the league is claiming then why not just release the evidence so we can all just move on instead of attracting multiple lawsuits and fighting it out in court and the media for months?


You are desperately relying on third hand information, like everyone else. The difference is, everyone else is being vaguely logical.

There is a ledger. It contains payouts. Any payout is against league rules. Greg Williams has admitted they practised and endorsed pay for injuries and big hits.

Considering Williams admission and the email exchanges involving Payton, that ledger is likely more accurate than you want to admit. Logical people would see the connection. You do not.

The fact that they changed the payout dependent on opposition makes your argument desperately thin. Again, looking at who left the field is irrelevant. Who paid out and who collected are breaking the rules regardless of what it was for.