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#76 panthers55

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 01:35 PM

The reality is they thought the cap would be higher in 2014 and beyond and that is why they signed Williams to what they did. They admitting not knowing 2014 would be flat. Now they have to go to plan B to figure out what to do. I hope they will figure it out. We will see.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 01:45 PM

Pay the man

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 01:49 PM

D-Lo doesn't have to take a paycut to restructure...and we've had several players( last season and beyond) restructure to provide cap relief, so we could get deals done. It happens league wide every year.


Yeah, bc throwing tons of guranteed cash at an aging RB vs making him earn it is smart business.

What Carolina will be doing if they keep the backfield intact doesn't happen every day. Teams don't invest those dollars at the RB spot (or draft picks) they rather spending it elsewhere.

Williams, Tolbert, Cam is a fearsome ground attack. They choose their RB. If Stewart gets a deal then Carolina makes a small mistake bigger. Need to invest more elsewhere

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 02:21 PM

Yeah, bc throwing tons of guranteed cash at an aging RB vs making him earn it is smart business.

What Carolina will be doing if they keep the backfield intact doesn't happen every day. Teams don't invest those dollars at the RB spot (or draft picks) they rather spending it elsewhere.

Williams, Tolbert, Cam is a fearsome ground attack. They choose their RB. If Stewart gets a deal then Carolina makes a small mistake bigger. Need to invest more elsewhere


My guess is you'll continue to be mad at Hurney, because I think he'll find away to pay Stewart. I don't think Hurney gives a rats ass about investing too much money at one position( LB???) If he wants the man on the team he will find the money to pay him. He's proven time and time again that he will give up big contracts, to his drafted players and doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks about it...



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Posted 03 June 2012 - 02:44 PM

My guess is you'll continue to be mad at Hurney, because I think he'll find away to pay Stewart. I don't think Hurney gives a rats ass about investing too much money at one position( LB???) If he wants the man on the team he will find the money to pay him. He's proven time and time again that he will give up big contracts, to his drafted players and doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks about it...


Yes he does, and it's one of the reasons I have wanted him gone for years.

Overvaluing the RB and LB positions in todays NFL.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 02:45 PM

The reality is they thought the cap would be higher in 2014 and beyond and that is why they signed Williams to what they did. They admitting not knowing 2014 would be flat. Now they have to go to plan B to figure out what to do. I hope they will figure it out. We will see.


This, is another reason I have wanted him gone.

Whoops, we thought things would be different, move along, nothing to see here, pay for your PSL's, miss the playoffs.....

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:18 PM

This, is another reason I have wanted him gone.

Whoops, we thought things would be different, move along, nothing to see here, pay for your PSL's, miss the playoffs.....

I think most teams didn't know that they essentially borrowed against the 2014 cap to keep this years cap from going down. By the time they let the teams know Hurney had already signed Williams. I am not sure it was his fault. Seems we are still finding out things about the CBA which are just now bring explained.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:38 PM

Hurney will continue to manage cap with creative methods though. Whether that means trading away draft high draft picks to reduce the number of big salaries we take (not as effective as it used to be), trading out a vet for a prospect, or restructuring.

I think I would be consdering how difficult it will be to replace what Stew does for us. He is fantastic but he may not make the full impact for us that he potentially can. . . . so how difficult is it to replace "what he does for us" and not so much "what he could do for us"?


edit: I think theyll let him sit and wait for the big contract on the premise that D-Lo got a big contract. They will basically in one way or another tell Stew. . look we want you with us, heres what can give you for now, but if you stick around we'll pay you big time. If he walks he walks.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:49 PM

I say that we sign Stew to a 4 year deal. That way, his contract comes due the same year as DeAngelo's and Cam's (rookie) contracts expire.

Pay Cam. Pay Stewart, again. Let Williams walk. All in 2016.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:55 PM

My guess is you'll continue to be mad at Hurney, because I think he'll find away to pay Stewart. I don't think Hurney gives a rats ass about investing too much money at one position( LB???) If he wants the man on the team he will find the money to pay him. He's proven time and time again that he will give up big contracts, to his drafted players and doesn't give a damn what anyone thinks about it...


If Hurney pays Stewart then that is dumb.

Hurney should of gone with Fox. New era, can't keep doing everything like we use. Passing league. Need to invest elsewhere. Best way to help Cam win a Superbowl is investing in the D, then passing attack.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:55 PM

I say that we sign Stew to a 4 year deal. That way, his contract comes due the same year as DeAngelo's and Cam's (rookie) contracts expire.

Pay Cam. Pay Stewart, again. Let Williams walk. All in 2016.


Williams will be cut before then

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 04:07 PM

I never understood why people thought he didn't wanna be here he seems close with Cam and obviously D-Will.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 05:47 PM

Williams will be cut before then


Pshhhh. :rolleyes:

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 05:52 PM

Pshhhh. :rolleyes:


Williams will be a 33 yr old RB in 2016 they can find cheaper and better before then for his role.

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:21 PM

Williams will be a 33 yr old RB in 2016 they can find cheaper and better before then for his role.


Yeah, but a 33 year old running back who has been splitting carries for most of his career is probably about as fresh as a 30 year old one. Thirty is the age most people consider to be when backs lose a step. Figure it'll be a little bit longer with DeAngelo and 2016 when his contract is up might be the perfect time to let him go.


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