#31
Posted 13 June 2012 - 10:42 PM
#32
Posted 13 June 2012 - 10:46 PM
Andre Reed isn't in because he doesn't deserve to be in.
Oooofff that one struck a heartstring. How can you say that? 4 superbowl appearances and crazy good stats...
#33
Posted 13 June 2012 - 10:50 PM
#34
Posted 13 June 2012 - 11:05 PM
one play?This is a good point. Andre Reed still not in, nor chris carter. TO and Moss have to be put in eventually and possibly torry holt.
Of course the big difference is that none of them have rings. If smith wins one, and does something special in it, he has agood shot. Look at Lynn Swann, he is in because of ONE PLAY!
You must not have watched football during Lynn Swann's era.
#35
Posted 13 June 2012 - 11:17 PM
one play?
You must not have watched football during Lynn Swann's era.
Was not alive during Swann's era. But I do know he was a number 3 wideout and has rather unimpressive stats.
#36
Posted 13 June 2012 - 11:31 PM
#37
Posted 14 June 2012 - 12:16 AM
Oooofff that one struck a heartstring. How can you say that? 4 superbowl appearances and crazy good stats...
Only 4 1,000 yard seasons. How is that "crazy good stats"? He was an accumulator, that's it.
4 Super Bowl appearances? So what? First of all, the only reason the Bills made it to 4 straight is because the AFC was extremely weak. That is why they, like every other AFC team, got the snot beaten out of them as soon as they made it to the Super Bowl. Second, it isn't like they even won one anyway.
Back to the first point, as amazing of an accomplishment that the Bills pulled off by getting to 4 straight, they like the rest of the AFC was no match for those NFC teams. From 1985 to 1997, the NFC won every single Super Bowl. Even more than that? Outside of 3 games, they were all complete blowouts.
#38
Posted 14 June 2012 - 12:44 AM
Only 4 1,000 yard seasons. How is that "crazy good stats"? He was an accumulator, that's it.
4 Super Bowl appearances? So what? First of all, the only reason the Bills made it to 4 straight is because the AFC was extremely weak. That is why they, like every other AFC team, got the snot beaten out of them as soon as they made it to the Super Bowl. Second, it isn't like they even won one anyway.
Back to the first point, as amazing of an accomplishment that the Bills pulled off by getting to 4 straight, they like the rest of the AFC was no match for those NFC teams. From 1985 to 1997, the NFC won every single Super Bowl. Even more than that? Outside of 3 games, they were all complete blowouts.
Only 4 1,000 yard seasons. How is that "crazy good stats"? He was an accumulator, that's it.
4 Super Bowl appearances? So what? First of all, the only reason the Bills made it to 4 straight is because the AFC was extremely weak. That is why they, like every other AFC team, got the snot beaten out of them as soon as they made it to the Super Bowl. Second, it isn't like they even won one anyway.
Back to the first point, as amazing of an accomplishment that the Bills pulled off by getting to 4 straight, they like the rest of the AFC was no match for those NFC teams. From 1985 to 1997, the NFC won every single Super Bowl. Even more than that? Outside of 3 games, they were all complete blowouts.
Right... but the bills still dominated half of the league, even if they were inferior to the NFC. They were one of the main reasons why marino never won a ring. Do you feel if he was in the SB 4x straight he would have lost them all?
#39
Posted 14 June 2012 - 12:55 AM
#40
Posted 14 June 2012 - 07:32 AM
This is a good point. Andre Reed still not in, nor chris carter. TO and Moss have to be put in eventually and possibly torry holt.
Of course the big difference is that none of them have rings. If smith wins one, and does something special in it, he has agood shot. Look at Lynn Swann, he is in because of ONE PLAY!
A Lynn Swann would never get in today though
#41
Posted 14 June 2012 - 08:53 AM
This is a good point. Andre Reed still not in, nor chris carter. TO and Moss have to be put in eventually and possibly torry holt.
Of course the big difference is that none of them have rings. If smith wins one, and does something special in it, he has agood shot. Look at Lynn Swann, he is in because of ONE PLAY!
are you sure about this?
#42
Posted 14 June 2012 - 09:36 AM
#43
Posted 14 June 2012 - 09:49 AM
Right... but the bills still dominated half of the league, even if they were inferior to the NFC. They were one of the main reasons why marino never won a ring. Do you feel if he was in the SB 4x straight he would have lost them all?
Well, considering the one year they got there, they got destroyed...possibly.
Still, you even said it yourself. The Bills. Not Reed. Very good player. But I wouldn't put him in the Hall.
#44
Posted 14 June 2012 - 10:25 AM
Well, considering the one year they got there, they got destroyed...possibly.
Still, you even said it yourself. The Bills. Not Reed. Very good player. But I wouldn't put him in the Hall.
Not to take credit away from Reed or the Bills, but Marino was a big time playoff choke artist. He had one brilliant game - the AFC Championship game when they went to the Super Bowl. Check out his career playoff stats
http://www.pro-footb...0/gamelog/post/
#45
Posted 14 June 2012 - 11:21 AM
are you sure about this?
lol nope i actually edited in torry holt after i wrote that second part.
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