Archived

This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.

La Pantera

Barnidge Apparently Not Injured

83 posts in this topic

If you're going to go this route please start another thread.

Post limit. So I'm gonna camp out in here for awhile.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Post limit. So I'm gonna camp out in here for awhile.

Post limit doesn't work.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

More hate for John Fox, while he just had a winning season with a shitty QB.

ugh.

Fox is a great coach, who got blamed for Jerry Richardson's shitty ownership.

double ugh.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTo-Id35Wgw&feature=relmfu

3:17 catchable ball, horrible awareness and use of hands.

Damn you for making me watch Clausen!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTo-Id35Wgw&feature=relmfu

3:17 catchable ball, horrible awareness and use of hands.

I'm pretty sure he didn't think Clausen was going to be able to get there.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Playoffs=winning season.

More wins than losses = winning season. You could argue playoffs = successful season, but not winning. Even including the playoff games they only broke even.

The Bucs probably could have gone to the playoffs if they were in the AFCW.

1 person likes this

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

my god that clausen video. he threw more checkdowns that game than cam did the entire first half of the season.

i really don't know how i sat through those games.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

my god that clausen video. he threw more checkdowns that game than cam did the entire first half of the season.

i really don't know how i sat through those games.

with the exception of a couple games, i only watched the first half then quit watching and took a few excedrin to help get rid of the headache i just got and then tried to take a nap and sleep it off.

2001 was easier, but mainly because i was in arkansas at that time and they weren't showing panther games there.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

i watched all of them except the san fran and saint louis games, since i was on my honeymoon at the time... my sundays generally sucked.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You can't make ANY educated or valid evaluation of a pass catching TE in Fix's offensive scheme. They just did not utilize the TE that way. Fix saw the TE as another OL for blocking.

I am not sure how he will be this season. But, let's wait to actually see him in a system that utilizes and values a pass catching TE that can work the seam.

He has the speed, hands, and athleticism that you want. Let's see if he can deliver in this system.

The ONLY time we saw him in this offense was ly training camp. And he looked very good and showed flashes of some great plays. I know it was only TC. But I would trust making an evaluation using TC in this system more than anything a TE did in Fox's system.

it wasn't fox's scheme, it was henning's that turned the TE into a 6th (and 7th) blocker. once davidson was hired, the TEs got utilized more, and you can say that their potential was maximized given the talent level that was there, which was basically mediocre. By extension you could say that WR utilization was also cut down to some degree. I don't remember Fox running nearly as many spread formations as he ran run heavy formations, and besides Moose and Keyshawn, WR2 production wasn't very good throughout Fox's tenure.

When Chud was hired we immediately went after Shockey and Olsen. Since a real pass catching threat at TE is required as it is a feature in Chud's offense, we had to shop for better talent. They're not generational talents by any means but they're way higher than Barnidge's level. Thinking that he's a 50 receptions guy if he just had the reps based on what doesn't even amount to a handful of productive games is jumping the gun. The funniest thing about it is that if he amounts to nothing and all this optimism is for naught (very plausible), everyone on the Barnidge bandwagon will simply forget they said anything about it relatively quickly.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Of course, he's so massive he has his own gravitational pull. 
    • You miss the point. Taylor was here before. We picked him because of what he could do for our wide receivers not because he had some great knowledge no other person had on the staff. Shula and Rivera and Gettleman studied multiple college systems for months before signing Taylor or drafting McCaffrey or Curtis and would have drafted the same whether Taylor was here or not. They liked the way Taylor developed McCaffrey which showed his talent but Stanford's offense wasn't Taylors idea or unique to him. Shula has a connection to Taylor as early as when Shula was at Alabama.  The debate was whether Taylor was chosen to replace Shula because Shula didn't know what to do to run a college offense and if he screwed up Taylor would replace him. And that Taylor was the reason and most influential in getting McCaffrey. I said it wasn't even close to the truth and this plan predated Taylor and was more thorough and we'll thought out. Everything since then just confirms I was right once again like usual.  
  • Member Statistics

    • Total Members
      18,243
    • Most Online
      2,867

    Newest Member
    GSO Goat
    Joined