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Posted 18 June 2012 - 10:12 AM

Wondering why you would be ready to give up on a dude before training camp is even over...... :wacko:

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 10:28 AM

I don't endorse keeping him after this year.... but there is ZERO reason to cut him now. A wasted spot is Clausen or AE. People can moan about him taking up a roster spot when those other guys are gone


AE might be a wasted roster spot. However, Right now I cant think of any back up quarterbacks that might possibly be available to us, who know our system as well as Anderson and Clausen do and who the coaches know the capabilities of and can strategize plays around - why would we want to get rid of Clausen at this point when if Cam suffers a major injury , Clausen is the next guy in line after Anderson - hell we dont even know if Anderson will beat clausen out this year for # 2.? Some of you people just dont think logically.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 10:29 AM

Wondering why you would be ready to give up on a dude before training camp is even over...... :wacko:

or even started?

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 11:16 AM

My post came from the perspective of a fan. Clearly we cannot make Marty Hurney cut him but should we mentally write him off as a wasted pick and move on to plan B. Or should I keep my hopes of a big mauling RT that can move DEs off your television screen. It becomes a question of mental health as we've been let down for three straight years.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 11:19 AM

The Jeff Otah saga makes me sick every time I think about it. We drafted an extremely talented right tackle that should be dominating the league for the next 8 years. Instead we got one brilliant playoff season and 31 missed games.

It's just so hard to let go. With a healthy Otah on the fied the Panthers could take that step from being good to being dominant. Those dry spells brought on by Byron Bell penalties and sacks become touchdown drives. Instead of Cam scrambling for first downs Johnathan Stewart rumbles for them. Jeff is like that girlfriend that you really really want it to work out with but she just keeps gaining weight.

I thought this was Jeff's year. He would come out motivated by a big contract and dominate for 16 games. Instead there are reports he's come in heavy. He has pain in his knee but an MRI reveals no structural damage. This raises the question does he really want it? Is he really a football player? It hurts because we need him. You only get one 1st round pick per season and we used one of ours on him. Jordan Gross will age out soon our next 1st round tackle will be for the left side.

So should we give up? Or should we keep clinging to the memories of 2008? Has Otah given up? In a way this reminds me of Kerry Collins. He took us to the playoffs, broke our hearts. Then a few years later he's in the Super Bowl with the Giants.


You could worry yourself sick about it but it won't make any difference. Luckily none of us have to make the decision and the decision will be made regardless of how much we worry in either direction.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 11:21 AM

My post came from the perspective of a fan. Clearly we cannot make Marty Hurney cut him but should we mentally write him off as a wasted pick and move on to plan B. Or should I keep my hopes of a big mauling RT that can move DEs off your television screen. It becomes a question of mental health as we've been let down for three straight years.

just watch other guys doing cool stuff.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 11:57 AM

AE might be a wasted roster spot. However, Right now I cant think of any back up quarterbacks that might possibly be available to us, who know our system as well as Anderson and Clausen do and who the coaches know the capabilities of and can strategize plays around - why would we want to get rid of Clausen at this point when if Cam suffers a major injury , Clausen is the next guy in line after Anderson - hell we dont even know if Anderson will beat clausen out this year for # 2.? Some of you people just dont think logically.


Clausen has no purpose here. He can't even be groomed to replace DA as a backup. Spot is better suited for a young nobody who might fit the scheme for grooming

Thinking Clausen will ever fit in an offense built around the deep ball isn't logical

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 12:03 PM

Clausen has no purpose here. He can't even be groomed to replace DA as a backup. Spot is better suited for a young nobody who might fit the scheme for grooming

2/3 of the playbook would have to be taken out (everything that involves the QB running or throwing the ball more than 15 yards) to allow clausen to step in.

he just doesn't fit what the team does.

at least AE has a bit of potential to build on and has somewhat of a skillset that would fit the offense. clausen can't say that.

i'd actually feel better with AE being the 3rd QB in addition to whatever else he can manage to do without screwing up rather than risk clausen stepping up behind center.

i really don't want to see that again.

i'm sure he's a swell guy and a hard worker or whatever, but his time is done here. he has outlasted any usefulness he could have here.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 12:03 PM

I think so. Byron Bell seems like he's going to develop into the full time starter.

All the guys on the team seem to really like him too, some of the guys call him "The Next Orlando Pace".

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 12:05 PM

I think so. Byron Bell seems like he's going to develop into the full time starter.

All the guys on the team seem to really like him to, some of the guys call him "The Next Orlando Pace".

lol, the next Pace? They are either being sarcastic or smoking crack. Bell displayed probably the worst T play we have seen in Carolina history.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 12:05 PM

My post came from the perspective of a fan. Clearly we cannot make Marty Hurney cut him but should we mentally write him off as a wasted pick and move on to plan B. Or should I keep my hopes of a big mauling RT that can move DEs off your television screen. It becomes a question of mental health as we've been let down for three straight years.


umm no.

mental health is a factor when coming back from injury, especially one that was re-aggravated by coming back from injury too early once before, but JO is not recovering from a mental health problem. He was injured and he is now rehabbing an injury.

As far as personally writing him off, go ahead. Or don't. It does not matter one way or the other what any fan like you or I or anybody else does "personally" All that matters is what he can do and what the Panthers do once he shows exactly that. And, as stated, what is the point in making that decision now? He's under contract and the law has been laid down as far as what he has to produce. What is the point of writing him off before the end of June?

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 12:07 PM

lol, the next Pace? They are either being sarcastic or smoking crack. Bell displayed probably the worst T play we have seen in Carolina history.


That statement is so false it hurts. Just saying his teammates like him and see his potential, breathe.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 12:08 PM

He's got injury problems and a lack of motivation at times, he's not terminally ill or dying.

No reason to give up on a first round pick unless they are just flat out busts due to lack of talent.

Otah does not lack talent, he has plenty of it; he just needs to be pushed and needs to get healthy.

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 12:09 PM

That statement is so false it hurts. Just saying his teammates like him and see his potential, breathe.


If it is so false then you can easily name one example of worse T play....anyone worse was benched

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 12:12 PM

if he can outright win the starting gig from otah with otah being healthy....i'm totally cool with that. i don't care where either guy was drafted. at this point it's irrelevant and, imo, people get too hung up on that. if bell does win that then otah could finish his last year here as a backup....which would be awesome on it's own. otah is good at what he does. as a backup it would mean the panthers have an absolutely amazing Oline.

i just have my doubts that bell could be dominant as an OT. i think he will be better than last year...and that last year he was playing like a rookie being asked to start on the oline (they all play like they have skates on their feet).

i'm just thinking that otah...in those moments that he's healthy...is one of the best. i'm hoping that he can be healthy enough to help out.


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