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#61 CarolinaPanthers8789

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Posted 22 June 2012 - 11:58 PM

Saying T-Rob will score as much as Barnes in the NBA proves how much of an idiot you are.

How am I a homer? I hate UNC. I went to Charlotte then Wake Forest grad school.


T-Rob scored more than Barnes in college and had the most double-double's in the NCAA this year with 27.

Robinson even put up a 30 point game this past year.

Also every point that HB40 scores will be equaled out by whoever he matches up against because he isn't a strong defender.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:00 AM

Actually, Barnes averaged 23 points per 40 minutes, in a UNC system that favors interior players and point guards, in a league (NCAA) that prioritizes zone defense and hand-checking.


The UNC System actually favors wingman, why do you think Ellington and Green looked so good in college? The run and gun UNC system always favors spot up jump shooters, which is what Barnes is.

Yes the system also tends to favor athletic big men who can run the court well, but overall wing play is the primary focus at UNC.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:02 AM

They all suck except for Zeller.


Idiot. You'd be thinking that Zeller sucked if he played at Duke.

UNC's (Roy's) system favors big men, Duke's favors wing players. That's why Antawn Jamison and Raef LaFrentz were drafted ahead of Vince Carter in 1998.

Zeller won't be drafted ahead of Barnes this year, but he wouldn't be a lottery pick either if he played at Duke and had to watch most of his team's shots be 3 pointers.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:02 AM

T-Rob scored more than Barnes in college and had the most double-double's in the NCAA this year with 27.

Robinson even put up a 30 point game this past year.

Also every point that HB40 scores will be equaled out by whoever he matches up against because he isn't a strong defender.


lol

Barnes avg like 23-25pt per 40 min on a high %. His skills are perfect for the NBA. He will avg 25ppg easily. He played within the team at UNC.

Robinson was the focal point of KU's offense. He won't score in the NBA. He is undersized & has no post moves or range





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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:03 AM

The UNC System actually favors wingman, why do you think Ellington and Green looked so good in college? The run and gun UNC system always favors spot up jump shooters, which is what Barnes is.

Yes the system also tends to favor athletic big men who can run the court well, but overall wing play is the primary focus at UNC.


Man, get a clue. Anyone with one knows that UNC's system favors interior play. I was saying this long before I saw this:

"A Western Conference front office executive recently said Barnes would probably be a better pro player than college player because he played in a system at North Carolina that didn’t complement his talents. The executive noted that Paul Pierce was the only quality small forward to play for Roy Williams “and that wasn’t because of Roy. His system is more for point guards and bigs.”

Barnes admitted that he had to adjust his game to fit a talented team that featured three other potential lottery picks in Tyler Zeller, John Henson and Kendall Marshall. “Not a lot of teams in the country have two skilled 6-10 guys and a great point guard. I had to work more on my midrange game and two dribble pull-up,” Barnes said."

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:04 AM

Also the per 40 system is dumb because at any time a player can cool off. All the basic per 40 system does is take averages into account.

But if you really want to look at that system then I guess I can bring up T-Rob's 22 points and 15 rebounds in a per 40 system, or MKG's 15 points and 10 rebounds in a per 40 system.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:09 AM

Idiot. You'd be thinking that Zeller sucked if he played at Duke.

UNC's (Roy's) system favors big men, Duke's favors wing players. That's why Antawn Jamison and Raef LaFrentz were drafted ahead of Vince Carter in 1998.

Zeller won't be drafted ahead of Barnes this year, but he wouldn't be a lottery pick either if he played at Duke and had to watch most of his team's shots be 3 pointers.


You are a dumbass, Antawn Jamison was the national player of the year in 1998. It favors big men who can run, that's it. Zeller can run, but he also has size and his pretty athletic for his size.

Hansbrough can run but has no size and isn't athletic.

That's the difference.

You know nothing about the game of basketball

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:10 AM

Also the per 40 system is dumb because at any time a player can cool off. All the basic per 40 system does is take averages into account.

But if you really want to look at that system then I guess I can bring up T-Rob's 22 points and 15 rebounds in a per 40 system, or MKG's 15 points and 10 rebounds in a per 40 system.


Actually, the per 40 is a good indicator of offensive efficiency.

Like I've said about Robinson, there are better big men coming out next year with more NBA potential than him. If you draft him, a year after you picked Biyombo, the Bobcats definitely won't be taking a big man three years in a row, so he'll just be in the way. I'd rather skip a year on big men this year.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:10 AM

You are a dumbass, Antawn Jamison was the national player of the year in 1998. It favors big men who can run, that's it. Zeller can run, but he also has size and his pretty athletic for his size.

Hansbrough can run but has no size and isn't athletic.

That's the difference.

You know nothing about the game of basketball


Yet, Tyler Hansbrough was National Player of the Year, because UNC's prolific offense ran through him, just like it ran through Antwan Jamison. If you have the talent, and you get the touches, and you get all the hype and attention because everyone can see that you're the focus, then you get National Player of the Year awards.

Amazing how CLEARLY BETTER than Jamison Vince was proven to be at the next level, isn't it...NOT.

Way to contradict yourself in every sentence.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:12 AM

& if you like MKG & Rob better than Barnes neither do you. Prepare to be disappointed when Charlotte refuses to trade #2 & runs to the podium to select Barnes

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:12 AM

Man, get a clue. Anyone with one knows that UNC's system favors interior play. I was saying this long before I saw this:

"A Western Conference front office executive recently said Barnes would probably be a better pro player than college player because he played in a system at North Carolina that didn’t complement his talents. The executive noted that Paul Pierce was the only quality small forward to play for Roy Williams “and that wasn’t because of Roy. His system is more for point guards and bigs.”

Barnes admitted that he had to adjust his game to fit a talented team that featured three other potential lottery picks in Tyler Zeller, John Henson and Kendall Marshall. “Not a lot of teams in the country have two skilled 6-10 guys and a great point guard. I had to work more on my midrange game and two dribble pull-up,” Barnes said."

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It didn't complement his talent's cause he can't drive and has no interior game. That is something that Paul Pierce had.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:13 AM

Actually, the per 40 is a good indicator of offensive efficiency.

Like I've said about Robinson, there are better big men coming out next year with more NBA potential than him. If you draft him, a year after you picked Biyombo, the Bobcats definitely won't be taking a big man three years in a row, so he'll just be in the way. I'd rather skip a year on big men this year.


And there's better wings coming out in Barnes, it's just a matter of which player gives you the most.

Also if that indicates offensive effeciancy then apparenly T-Rob is very efficienct from the 3 point line shooting an astonishing 50% and averages a point ever single play.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:20 AM

Yet, Tyler Hansbrough was National Player of the Year, because UNC's prolific offense ran through him, just like it ran through Antwan Jamison. If you have the talent, and you get the touches, and you get all the hype and attention because everyone can see that you're the focus, then you get National Player of the Year awards.

Amazing how CLEARLY BETTER than Jamison Vince was proven to be at the next level, isn't it...NOT.

Way to contradict yourself in every sentence.


How did I contradict myself? Guthridge was the head coach of Jamison and Carter, not Roy. Also why did you bring up LaFrentz when Roy coached him at Kansas, not UNC?

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:21 AM

& if you like MKG & Rob better than Barnes neither do you. Prepare to be disappointed when Charlotte refuses to trade #2 & runs to the podium to select Barnes


Lol you know nothing about the Bobcats, if they keep the 2nd pick they are taking Robinson.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 12:27 AM

The question is, would you rather have Luol Deng or Al Horford?

I personally would rather have Al Horford because Biyombo is like offensive-less Serge Ibaka, and since we were last in points per game and second to last in rebounds per game; we will take Robinson because he gives us those things.

The Bobcats can't draft on need right now, they need to draft on best available player and that player is T-Rob.


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