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Why do you believe in God?

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It's almost as embarrassing as people who aren't in the NFL but still debate Panthers football. Embarrassing.

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Yeah I can't believe people debate this stuff on message boards.

Anonymously on an online interface seems like a popular route of communication these days....just throwing it out there ;)

Its like throwing sh*t at a wall...some will get all riled up if they enjoy discussing the subject regardless of their beliefs

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i like to believe that something is waiting in the afterlife for people like casey anthony or sandusky. or a ken lay who steals millions of elderlys life savings. i guess I like to know that thier are consequences to our actions. even if no one catches us, or pardons our actions. You can run but you can't hide type of situation.

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i like to believe that something is waiting in the afterlife for people like Casey Anthony or Sandusky. or a ken lay who steals millions of elderly life savings. i guess I like to know that their are consequences to our actions. even if no one catches us, or pardons our actions. You can run but you can't hide type of situation.

Me too. That would be great, because there are a lot of people just like the ones you listed that are never caught. An all knowing, all seeing, all powerful god could punish those people for eternity. But you know what? Based on what I've been told these slime balls can ask for God's forgiveness and he'll wipe their slate of evil deeds clean, all transgressions are forgiven. Meanwhile someone can do a lifetime of good serving others and go to hell because they choose not to believe in God or Christ. This was one of the first indicators to me that religion was based on the teachings of men not god, fear not love.

God could do a big favor for all victims throughout the ages by appearing before mankind occasionally to remind everyone there are eternal consequences for being inhumane towards one another. But he won't, because the god we are taught about in Sunday School doesn't exist. That or he works in mysterious ways. :wacko:

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my biggest point of contention with the concept of the personal deity of the christian god is this idea that you've got a just being who declines the prayers for help from millions of fervent, pure-hearted believers in africa and asia and lets them starve/get shot/die of aids, but if you pray for help on your math test you'll get it (or if you're a certain terrible NFL quarterback, he'll tip games in your favor as long as you slide to one knee in front of the world.)

i'm still attempting to figure this one out. current theological answers haven't satisfied me.

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my biggest point of contention with the concept of the personal deity of the christian god is this idea that you've got a just being who declines the prayers for help from millions of fervent, pure-hearted believers in africa and asia and lets them starve/get shot/die of aids, but if you pray for help on your math test you'll get it (or if you're a certain terrible NFL quarterback, he'll tip games in your favor as long as you slide to one knee in front of the world.)

i'm still attempting to figure this one out. current theological answers haven't satisfied me.

what about anti-theological arguments?

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Me too. That would be great, because there are a lot of people just like the ones you listed that are never caught. An all knowing, all seeing, all powerful god could punish those people for eternity. But you know what? Based on what I've been told these slime balls can ask for God's forgiveness and he'll wipe their slate of evil deeds clean, all transgressions are forgiven. Meanwhile someone can do a lifetime of good serving others and go to hell because they choose not to believe in God or Christ. This was one of the first indicators to me that religion was based on the teachings of men not god, fear not love.

God could do a big favor for all victims throughout the ages by appearing before mankind occasionally to remind everyone there are eternal consequences for being inhumane towards one another. But he won't, because the god we are taught about in Sunday School doesn't exist. That or he works in mysterious ways. :wacko:

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I always say there are three kinds of evil. Those who are just in it for the thrill, those who react instinctively in situations that could be deemed evil, {like killing someone who rapes your sister}. And those who just don't believe in sin. who believe there is no god. So I could publically apologize for all sorts of things and you or my constituates might believe it. But the one who apologizes doesn't. hopefully god knows how to recognize the genuine ones.

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