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Creationism in Private Schools

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I don't honestly care what you believe.

I'm bored with the whole discussion, honestly. But feel free to make a dozen more angry posts if it makes you feel better. I got better things to do (stuff I should have been doing for the last few hours instead of posting here) :(

Bottom line for me: Denying that alternate theories exist and saying that "it's not science unless you interpret it the way we say to interpret it" is a mark of intellectual cowardice.

I have a lot of respect for you on here Mr Scot... you're a class guy and always have been. I just don't agree with you on this.

I don't think that anyone has said what you're accusing them of and if they were, I would agree with you. CWG got carried away above, but that's pretty normal...

I'm not afraid of any ideas... and I didn't get that from anyone else that posted here. I'm just saying that there is a difference between a theory that is borne out by evidence and one that is a religious or philosophical belief .and they should be differentiated between in an educational setting.

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Google Search: Evidence for Creationism

That's about as much effort as I feel like putting into it at the moment.

You didn't need to do that much work! Just refer to the first post in this thread. The Loch Ness Monster is more than enough evidence.

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It's as simple as the reason why they don't teach Math in English class, or economics in chemistry. That's what most people are trying to explain.

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It's as simple as the reason why they don't teach Math in English class, or economics in chemistry. That's what most people are trying to explain.

You do have semblences of math in english classes to teach some basic grammar rules...and you do have basic economics in chemistry..as in to balance equations. To say we can't bridge critical thought across multiple curricula is ignorant and short-sighted.

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do I believe in God? yes

should creationalism be taught in school? no

leave the science to schools and dogma to church.

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I don't see how it's inappropriate to simply acknowledge that there are widely held beliefs other than evolution.

How is it intellectually honest to deny that alternate theories even exist?

in a science class, if a fact-based, empirically-testable alternative was raised and cited, I would have a problem with the class or teacher shunning it because it was an alternate theory.

currently, every major theory is based on a religious or philosophical argument that attempts to poke holes in current theories to elevate its position. that's not science. keep it out of a science class.

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So if you disagree with it, you can just dismiss it as an invalid option, regardless of how many other people might believe it.

Convenient.

If it has zero evidence to support it, damn right.

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currently, every major theory is based on a religious or philosophical argument that attempts to poke holes in current theories to elevate its position. that's not science. keep it out of a science class.

Aristotle would tell you that you don't know wtf you're talking about, in so many words.

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In fact, it's not hard for people that think to actually do. Why waste time on nonsense because "someone else believes it"?

Tomorrow some new scientific evidence could come along and blow modern evolution theory apart. And as long is it stood up to the testing and prodding of the scientific community - using the scientific method - I would be fine with that.

Can you, just perhaps, vaguely see the difference now?

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And as far as me "getting carried away" or whatever -

this is a central issue to me because I am a geek who loves science, and understands that the scientific method has literally created the world we live in today. The idea that it's OK to usurp it with magical stories because science has consistently pushed back the dark ages of religious explanations of things, and some people want to change that, is something that should have been discarded completely a hundred years ago.

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