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#16 rayzor

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:05 PM

it only takes one well placed hit on the head to cause permanent brain damage. it only takes once coming back too soon from a concussion injury to cause long lasting neurological problems.

that he was only in the league 2 years doesn't matter.

oh...and the fact that these lawsuits didn't start showing up until recently doesn't really matter much at all either. they've just recently been studying the long term effects of these kinds of brain trauma (which is what a concussion is) and just noticing ties to problems that football players have.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:06 PM

The NFL is probably one of the most sued corporations in the NFL, jesus. They spend millions of legal council alone every year.

which is one of the many reasons they are going so hard after the Saints*.

they've had enough trouble fighting off lawsuits and money and aggravation spent changing things trying to make the game safer without some douche team setting up a bounty program with the intent to cause serious harm outside of the scope of the rules.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 01:51 PM

Someone explain to me how these players can be so sure that the majority of the harm they incurred was while playing in the NFL and not H.S. or college? I don't see any of them suing the NCAA or their Alma-matter?

Hell, it's possible that they were damaged goods before they even stepped on an NFL field with all the Oklahoma drills they ran in H.S. and college up to that point... I've seen some relatively vicious shots delivered at the Pop-Warner level, how can they be sure they didn't sustain a good majority of their brain damage during those years, when the brain is still developing?

If the NFL had the ability to measure the amount of damage they already had before they ever stepped on an NFL field would they have been okay with being told they were ineligible because they already had too much pre-existing brain damage? Would Jim McMahon trade his fame and fortune for a life without football if it meant he could have avoided some of the problems he's having now?

This is the problem I have with these lawsuits, it's clearly a money grab. It's no coincidence that most of these guys are flat broke because they pissed away every cent they ever made. 70% of NFL players declare bankruptcy within 5 years of retiring and that has nothing to do with medical bills or the inability to support themselves as the result of injuries.

I have a really hard time accepting the notion that these guys didn't know or assume the risks they were taking while they were violently ramming heads with each other... they honestly didn't think that might be bad for them in the long run?

I pity these guys because the only person who ever wins a class-action lawsuit is the lawyer that filed it. All these class-action lawsuits will be combined and the NFL will reach some sort of settlement with the lawyers, which will result in each player getting about 100 bucks.

#19 Khaki Lackey

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 02:07 PM

I wonder why Joe Montana, Steve Young, Terry Bradshaw, Fran Tarkenton etc. aren't all out there assaulting policemen and killing themselves? Did Ryan Leaf get more concussions in his two years than all the other QBs that played in the non pussified era?

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 02:09 PM

The NFL is probably one of the most sued corporations in the NFL, jesus.


really?

#21 TheGreatestOfAllTimeCam

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 02:12 PM

These bullsh!t lawsuits will be dismissed. Soon, the NFL will make all the players sign waivers saying, "Yes I realize there is potential danger."
Otherwise they can turn down the millions of dollars and go teach PE with their degrees they got for free.


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Posted 28 June 2012 - 02:24 PM

Someone explain to me how these players can be so sure that the majority of the harm they incurred was while playing in the NFL and not H.S. or college? I don't see any of them suing the NCAA or their Alma-matter?

Hell, it's possible that they were damaged goods before they even stepped on an NFL field with all the Oklahoma drills they ran in H.S. and college up to that point... I've seen some relatively vicious shots delivered at the Pop-Warner level, how can they be sure they didn't sustain a good majority of their brain damage during those years, when the brain is still developing?

If the NFL had the ability to measure the amount of damage they already had before they ever stepped on an NFL field would they have been okay with being told they were ineligible because they already had too much pre-existing brain damage? Would Jim McMahon trade his fame and fortune for a life without football if it meant he could have avoided some of the problems he's having now?

This is the problem I have with these lawsuits, it's clearly a money grab. It's no coincidence that most of these guys are flat broke because they pissed away every cent they ever made. 70% of NFL players declare bankruptcy within 5 years of retiring and that has nothing to do with medical bills or the inability to support themselves as the result of injuries.

I have a really hard time accepting the notion that these guys didn't know or assume the risks they were taking while they were violently ramming heads with each other... they honestly didn't think that might be bad for them in the long run?

I pity these guys because the only person who ever wins a class-action lawsuit is the lawyer that filed it. All these class-action lawsuits will be combined and the NFL will reach some sort of settlement with the lawyers, which will result in each player getting about 100 bucks.


This is part of my point. NFL will say, "it is not all our fault, he had 3 verifiable concussions in college and High School." Then is when the colleges and school systems get targeted and then is when the stuff starts shutting down. That is my worry

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 02:27 PM

Lawyers would fug up free ice cream

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 02:32 PM

So when will Muhammad Ali sue for the neurological brain damage he has from taking all those shots to the head during his boxing career?

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 02:43 PM

So when will Muhammad Ali sue for the neurological brain damage he has from taking all those shots to the head during his boxing career?


I guess nobody told him that was bad for him?

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 02:55 PM

They will mandate Mark Kelso's helmet before they let the sport die.

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I wouldn't be surprised to see this in high school and collegiate ball in the next 2 or 3 years.

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Posted 28 June 2012 - 10:58 PM

Someone with a lot more legal acumen will have to explain to me how the NFL or the Bucs are responsible for a condition that, if its football related, is likely the result of a lifetime of behavior. if you figure 3 years of Pop Warner ball followed by 2 years of JV, 2 years varsity high school, 3-4 years of NCAA ball, and 2 more at the top - it seems to me to be a hard case to make that the NFL or the Bucs are very culpable.

This is a pattern of behavior that Mr Sears dedicated his life to long before the NFL or the Bucs were anything more than a dream to him.

And that the vast majority of NFL alumni are physically fine. At least upstairs...

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 07:48 AM

And that the vast majority of NFL alumni are physically fine. At least upstairs...


This is just one of a growing number of lawsuits, this one has 127 players. Where they smell blood(money), you will find all of a sudden, that they are "not" fine.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:44 AM

I feel sorry for him and all. But this subject has been brought up before. I'm going to say this again like I had in the past. These players have no right to sue the NFL for what happens on the field. These guys get paid millions every year and upon that get great medical benefits from the NFL as well. But yet they want to sue because of the head injuries. Smh!! From day one when they started playing in the NFL that they new how dangerous this game would be. So again they should have no right to sue. Do you see our men and women who get hurt over seas on the battle field come back home and sue the U.S. Government for their injuries? No they don't. This is just spoiled rich ass players gone broke and now trying to get more out of the NFL. Sorry but this will never hold up in court one bit. Screw these greedy losers.

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Posted 29 June 2012 - 08:51 AM

Do you see our men and women who get hurt over seas on the battle field come back home and sue the U.S. Government for their injuries? No they don't. This is just spoiled rich ass players gone broke and now trying to get more out of the NFL. Sorry but this will never hold up in court one bit. Screw these greedy losers.


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