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Obama has passed the largest tax increase in the history of the world

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hey remember when republicans used to say "lol some professor of constitutional law obama was, look at how unconstitutional obamacare is"

i'm going to miss that

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don't worry cantrell, now they have Obama saying there are 57 states AND Obamacare isn't a tax, har har

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Obama said it wasn't a tax.

Wish he'd have a press conference to allow people to ask him questions. For now...the Carney will do.

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Obama said it wasn't a tax.

Wish he'd have a press conference to allow people to ask him questions. For now...the Carney will do.

romney also said it wasn't a tax so i'm guessing that a presidential candidate who argues that the individual mandate is not a tax isn't really a dealbreaker for you

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Stay tuned.

Ruling has helped republicans.

http://thehill.com/b...althcare-ruling-

Since this law was passed with 51 votes in the Senate...that's all it will take to repeal it.

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it got more than 51 votes, why does it only need 51?

edit: reconciliation to get it to go away...?

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Meh. At least I get health care now.

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it got more than 51 votes, why does it only need 51?

edit: reconciliation to get it to go away...?

Yep.

It passed via reconciliation....51 votes.

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If this law actually goes into effect fully, I doubt it'll ever be outright repealed. Now, they may try and repeal the mandate and tinker with the framework, but history has shown that once entitlement programs go into effect it's extremely rare for them to be simply done away with. People tend to like free stuff, American or otherwise.

As for the tax/penalty debate... honestly, I don't see how this is any different than anything else they use to determine someone's tax burden. They already use income level, marital status, kids/no kids, dependents, exemptions, etc. Essentially what Roberts decided is that "health care: yes or no?" is just another box to check in determining what your taxes will be each year.

It really doesn't do anything different with anything. It may set a precedent in some ways, but on the whole it's not a radical change in the government's authority to tax.

As for Obama saying it's not a tax... well, they didn't argue that it was before the court. From what I've read, it was Roberts who made that determination on his own based on his knowledge of the law. It's odd, I saw Michael Moore of all people on TV talking about this and he noted that Roberts actually seems to have gone out of his way to actually make Obama's case for him rather than just ruling on the case as it was presented.

Really baffling that Roberts would not only side with the left here, but that he'd go out of his way to essentially argue the Obama administration's point for them. Just a head-scratcher there. I know conservatives must feel pretty betrayed by the whole thing.

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I can't stand socialists.

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