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#31 koolkatluke

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 01:10 AM

I dont think you read a single line of my post; however, it's pointless to keep ranting about our new player. I hope him the best and i pray the staff can actually develop him correctly. The rest will be up to MKG.


No your problem is you are comparing a 18 year old to the 26-27 year old Gerald. This kid is already doing now what Gerald was doing in his Prime.

You are also not factoring in that he got less shot att. per game (because he played on a allstar team) and wasn't the focal point of his offense. He will get more Att. and develop more on the Bobcats then he did in UK.

You will see him get more ISO plays. More jumpers off screens and give and goes and more plays ran for him in the pros.

I promise he will be a better scorer in the Pro's then he was in college.

These Are Gerald 18 year old stats.
Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG

2000-01 36 22.9 9.8 43.8 17.5 56.8 1.5 6.0 1.0 1.2


Andre Stats Andre Iguodala Stat Summary: Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
2003-04 30 32.1 12.9 45.0 31.5 78.8 4.9 8.4 0.4 1.6 2002-03 32 19.2 6.4 38.1 20.5 67.0 2.1 4.9 0.6 1.5 Career 62 25.4 9.6 42.4 27.3 73.7 3.4 6.6 0.5 1.5



MKG already ahead of the cruve. And remember he played on a team where 6 player got drafted off it.


Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Stat Summary: Season GP MPG PPG FG% 3FG% FT% APG RPG BPG SPG
2011-12 40 31.1 11.9 49.1 25.5 74.5 1.9 7.4 0.9 1.0

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 01:53 AM

Gerald was a role player in college, coincidentally he became a glorified role player in the pros. He also played on team where there were NO future first round picks to draw defensive and offensive focus off of.




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Posted 01 July 2012 - 02:42 PM

Gerald was a role player in college, coincidentally he became a glorified role player in the pros. He also played on team where there were NO future first round picks to draw defensive and offensive focus off of.


Correct!!! Gerald could have put up crazy numbers if he was as good as MKG is now.

MKG played for the good of the team not himself. He could have put up more points on a different team.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 02:49 PM

great writeup

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 02:56 PM

This wasn't a great draft for Star player types, it was a deep draft that was filled with reliable starters and 6th men type players.

Next years draft is heavy at the top on Star players with Zeller, Muhammeed, Noel and JMM. A few others that could also make that jump into that type of talk as well.


MKG was a great pick for the future, just not next season. He doesn't have consistent dribble penetration moves, a reliable post move, a consistent jump shot or long range. He's exactly like Wallace was, but he does have more upside both offensively and defensively.

I think he hits a ceiling where he averages 20 PPG, 7 RPG, 2 APG, 1 SPG. Adding to his amazing defensive intensity and work ethic that will rub off on the rest of the team. The Bobcats just need to get that star player that can score in droves to pair with MKG, Walker and Biz.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 06:43 PM

This wasn't a great draft for Star player types, it was a deep draft that was filled with reliable starters and 6th men type players.

Next years draft is heavy at the top on Star players with Zeller, Muhammeed, Noel and JMM. A few others that could also make that jump into that type of talk as well.


MKG was a great pick for the future, just not next season. He doesn't have consistent dribble penetration moves, a reliable post move, a consistent jump shot or long range. He's exactly like Wallace was, but he does have more upside both offensively and defensively.

I think he hits a ceiling where he averages 20 PPG, 7 RPG, 2 APG, 1 SPG. Adding to his amazing defensive intensity and work ethic that will rub off on the rest of the team. The Bobcats just need to get that star player that can score in droves to pair with MKG, Walker and Biz.


People are going to be sorely disappointed with Noel. He isn't Anthony Davis at all. Next year draft doesn't have the depth or star power of this years draft. Harrison Barnes went 7th. He would go top 3 if he was in next years draft.

I'll say this again MKG in the Pro's with teams not hand checking, running zones, and more free flow in bigger lanes will be a better offensive player. He has a very quick 1st step good at changing direction and is a very flexible athlete when attacking the basket. He will be a better offensive player in the pros.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 06:55 PM

He wouldn't be top 3, lmao. haha


I'd take Zeller and Muhammed over Davis... Noel on the same level as Davis. (Davis is the guy that got blocked and allowed Biz to get a triple double on him in the world game) JMM is on the same level talent and potential wise as the second and third best players in this past draft were. (Beal or MKG)


Then you have a few other players that are really good with a chance at jumping into that elite level of talent and skill set potential wise. Added to that is a 7 foot euro league player that would've gone top 5 this year.

Much, much better of a draft top end wise then this one was and it's not even close.




Once the draft process finished this past draft took a plummet and wasn't considered as elite as many thought it would be. That's why the second pick was just the same as picking 8th or so. The talent was comparable. There was only one elite level talent in this draft and that was Davis who is questionable offensively and might just be a Marcus Camby type of player.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 06:57 PM

http://www.bobcatsba.../#comment-24385 Very good read

GM Rich Cho is a smart dude. President Rod Higgins is a smart dude.* They played the Wayne Gretzky by way of Steve Jobs card:


Don’t skate to where the puck is, skate to where it’s going. And judging from last month’s NBA Finals, the puck is going to an UBER-ATHLETIC place in which only the crazy-long, high of energy may roam.

Lebron James. Kevin Durant. Paul George. Luol Deng. Rudy Gay. Iggy. Danny Granger. Chris Bosh. Derrick Rose. John Wall.
Thomas Robinson only covers one of these guys on a good day. MKG can match up with ‘em all.
Robinson is an old-school bruiser who could’ve banged with Charles Barkley or Karl Malone back in the day. Meanwhile, this year’s Finals featured James and Durant playing the bulk of his team’s minutes at the four spot. I like Robinson but there’s no chance he’s checking either of those guys.
By adding Gilchrist to a squad which already includes Gerald Henderson (a near lockdown defender at both guard spots) and Bismack Biyombo (still developing but a defensive juggernaut in the making), the Bobcats have three players who could legitimately challenge for All-Defensive team in the near future.
MKG also fits perfectly with new head coach Mike Dunlap’s philosophy of fitness, effort and easy transition buckets. Good news, coach, MKG isn’t just “fit” he’s “relentless”. No player on the roster has been able to make Gana Diop or Tyrus Thomas feel bad for giving less than a 100% thus far but I think Gilchrist the “Culture-Changer” has a shot.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:09 PM

He wouldn't be top 3, lmao. haha


I'd take Zeller and Muhammed over Davis... Noel on the same level as Davis. (Davis is the guy that got blocked and allowed Biz to get a triple double on him in the world game) JMM is on the same level talent and potential wise as the second and third best players in this past draft were. (Beal or MKG)


Then you have a few other players that are really good with a chance at jumping into that elite level of talent and skill set potential wise. Added to that is a 7 foot euro league player that would've gone top 5 this year.

Much, much better of a draft top end wise then this one was and it's not even close.




Once the draft process finished this past draft took a plummet and wasn't considered as elite as many thought it would be. That's why the second pick was just the same as picking 8th or so. The talent was comparable. There was only one elite level talent in this draft and that was Davis who is questionable offensively and might just be a Marcus Camby type of player.


You really have no clue.

1. If Anthony Davis came out next year he would be the number 1 pick. Shabazz nor Cody are considered Franchise Player Davis is. So you're wrong. Davis is Closer to KG and Duncan then he is Camby.

2. Noel has no Offense game at all he is more Marcus Camby then Davis is. Remember Davis was a guard 2 years ago he still has some guard skills. Noel has always been a Bigman.

3. JMM is a good player but he is a tweener SF/PF while MKG and Beal have certain position. Both ranked higher then JMM going into college.

4. With the player that stayed and the Freshman class that came in this draft was picked to be better. Next year draft won't be as good.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:12 PM

http://www.bobcatsba.../#comment-24385 Very good read

GM Rich Cho is a smart dude. President Rod Higgins is a smart dude.* They played the Wayne Gretzky by way of Steve Jobs card:


Don’t skate to where the puck is, skate to where it’s going. And judging from last month’s NBA Finals, the puck is going to an UBER-ATHLETIC place in which only the crazy-long, high of energy may roam.

Lebron James. Kevin Durant. Paul George. Luol Deng. Rudy Gay. Iggy. Danny Granger. Chris Bosh. Derrick Rose. John Wall.
Thomas Robinson only covers one of these guys on a good day. MKG can match up with ‘em all.
Robinson is an old-school bruiser who could’ve banged with Charles Barkley or Karl Malone back in the day. Meanwhile, this year’s Finals featured James and Durant playing the bulk of his team’s minutes at the four spot. I like Robinson but there’s no chance he’s checking either of those guys.
By adding Gilchrist to a squad which already includes Gerald Henderson (a near lockdown defender at both guard spots) and Bismack Biyombo (still developing but a defensive juggernaut in the making), the Bobcats have three players who could legitimately challenge for All-Defensive team in the near future.
MKG also fits perfectly with new head coach Mike Dunlap’s philosophy of fitness, effort and easy transition buckets. Good news, coach, MKG isn’t just “fit” he’s “relentless”. No player on the roster has been able to make Gana Diop or Tyrus Thomas feel bad for giving less than a 100% thus far but I think Gilchrist the “Culture-Changer” has a shot.




Yes sir!!!

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:28 PM

Something also about MKG that is not mention is he's a 5 tool player.

Now for people who don't play Fantasy Basketball or know what a "5 tool player" is.

It's a person who can effect the game in 5 ways. Points, rebounds, steals, blocks, and assists.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 07:33 PM

And this is for CarPanfan96. I pointed some parts out for you.


http://insider.espn....-2013-nba-draft

The 2012 NBA draft didn't have a lot of sizzle, but it had plenty of depth. With virtually all of the top underclassmen deciding to declare, it was stocked with talent. The 2013 draft? Ugh.
The 2013 draft is so devoid of top returning underclassmen and has such a marginal freshman class, one NBA scout said our 2013 Top 100 list may be the weakest since the dreaded 2000 NBA draft (check out our 2013 draft homepage here).
When you remember that the best prospect out of the 2000 draft was 46th pick Michael Redd, you get a picture of what we might be in for.
This draft does have a couple of interesting returning stars and several intriguing college freshmen -- but it runs out of steam pretty quickly.
We've ranked Kentucky Wildcats recruit Nerlens Noel as the No. 1 prospect in our Top 100 after talking with numerous NBA scouts and executives. Noel is very similar to this year's No. 1 pick Anthony Davis. He is a long, lanky big man who runs the floor, rebounds, blocks shots and plays above the rim. He has to get stronger, but he's a big time talent.
However, none of the scouts we spoke with think that Noel is cut out of the same cloth as Davis as a prospect. He doesn't have the same basketball IQ or motor of Davis, and most scouts believe he's even further behind than Davis was offensively. The one thing he might be better at than Davis? Most scouts say he's an even better shot-blocker.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:03 PM

I don't think Davis is that special, he wasn't that good of a guard and his biggest strengths are shot blocking and athleticism. He's severely lacking offensively, and I think his ceiling is Marcus Camby with more athleticism. He's going to be a 10 PPG, 12 RPG, 2 BPG NBA guy. That's not a star, its a defensive specialist. Hence me having both baz and Zeller rated higher and Noel rated similarly to him. Both have potential to be 20 PPG scorers in the NBA. Lastly, JMM isn't a tweener, he's got serious post skills, incredible athleticism and is 6-9 with 7-1 wingspan, both of those are similar to Davis who's peg as a NBA PF/center.



Noel however is offensively inept, but is a defensive beast coming into college. Sounds similar to Davis, lets see where he is after a season in Kentucky.



I like the top of the next draft more then this one, however after the top 5-7 it falls off dramatically. It's not as deep of a draft by any means, but I think it's got more talent up top.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:12 PM

I don't think Davis is that special, he wasn't that good of a guard and his biggest strengths are shot blocking and athleticism. He's severely lacking offensively, and I think his ceiling is Marcus Camby with more athleticism. He's going to be a 10 PPG, 12 RPG, 2 BPG NBA guy. That's not a star, its a defensive specialist. Hence me having both baz and Zeller rated higher and Noel rated similarly to him. Both have potential to be 20 PPG scorers in the NBA. Lastly, JMM isn't a tweener, he's got serious post skills, incredible athleticism and is 6-9 with 7-1 wingspan, both of those are similar to Davis who's peg as a NBA PF/center.



Noel however is offensively inept, but is a defensive beast coming into college. Sounds similar to Davis, lets see where he is after a season in Kentucky.



I like the top of the next draft more then this one, however after the top 5-7 it falls off dramatically. It's not as deep of a draft by any means, but I think it's got more talent up top.


Just admit you were wrong dude it's not that hard. Stop trying to save face.

Next year draft is not better then this years draft.

Neither Cody or Shabazz is seen as a Franchise Player. Davis is by most NBA analysis. Your opinion compare to them is lacking severely.

However, none of the scouts we spoke with think that Noel is cut out of the same cloth as Davis as a prospect.

How is that not clear to you?


Noel is not in the same class as Davis sorry try again.

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Posted 01 July 2012 - 08:23 PM

JMM will be a good player but he is a tweener. Not built to take the pounding inside like NBA PF take but also not fast enough to play against NBA SF. I see him like Jaminson if he bulks up more and improves his jump shot he will be a good player.

But Derek Williams and Beasley are the same type player as him and they've not hit their stride yet.


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