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#31 God

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:31 PM

Kiss my @ss Cho.


wtf ru talking about? you want him to just magically sign durant rondo and wade overnight and become a powerhouse?

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 05:52 PM

Hawes


Hawes?
Lol

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 06:04 PM

wtf ru talking about? you want him to just magically sign durant rondo and wade overnight and become a powerhouse?


I honestly couldn't care any less about what he does since draft night.

If the Cleveland Cavaliers had a clue, they would've drafted Harrison Barnes at #4 and then went after Eric Gordon, instead of drafting Waiters at #4 and then CLUMSILY trying to get Golden State to trade them Barnes and now trying to talk to Brandon Roy.

They're just as stupid as Cho is, apparently.

Irving
Gordon
Barnes
Thompson
Zeller

That would've been some nucleus.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 06:34 PM

Find me a 7 footer who's better than Hickson and is available. (other than Hibbert)


Chris Kaman (stands 7'0 flat)
Spencer Hawes (stand 7'1 flat) (By the way, don't laugh at Hawes, he had two 20 point games in the Chicago-Philly series)

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 06:44 PM

Chris Kaman (stands 7'0 flat)
Spencer Hawes (stand 7'1 flat) (By the way, don't laugh at Hawes, he had two 20 point games in the Chicago-Philly series)


Hawes is a pretty good player, but I'd still take Hickson over Hawes all day.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 06:51 PM

that true shooting percentage is bad for a player of any position. if you actually knew what it meant you would understand this. it takes into consideration that many of his shots are 3s.

you clearly dont understand efficiency, but are beyond me trying to help explain these things. i get it dude, he is a forward that shoots 3s. the problem is he isnt great at it and thus its not a very good shot for anyone to take


Using efficiency statistics to grade out a player that played on a bad Cleveland Cavaliers team (when they didn't have Irving they were garbage) is a very piss poor argument.

If you want to look at efficiency, look at it from the point of view of how efficient/valuable he was to the Cavs. Jamison was responsible for 18.5% of the Cavs total points.

How can you say a guy that scores nearly a fifth of a teams total points is inefficient?

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 06:51 PM

Hawes is a pretty good player, but I'd still take Hickson over Hawes all day.


The fact of having a seven footer on the Bobcats roster that doesn't suck really intrigues me though lol.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 06:56 PM

jamison ranked 284 in the in nba in true shooting percentage last year. 1 spot ahead of biyombo

http://insider.espn....otingPct/page/6


That stat is a garbage argument for a player like Jamison because all the true shooting percentage takes in account is free throws, three-point goals, and two-point field goals.

Jamison rarely shot the ball in the paint, most of his two-point field goal attempts came from just inside the three point area around the 18 to 20 foot range as where most of Biyombo's shots were two to five foot shots in the paint.

True shooting percentage doesn't take into the account of how difficult the shot is, which is why your argument is flawed.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 07:07 PM

Hawes is a pretty good player, but I'd still take Hickson over Hawes all day.


I rather have Hawes and let Bismack develop into 1 of the better PF in the league.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:10 PM

Well shots just inside the 3 point range are the worst in the league, so it does take the value into perspective. Are you his brothger or something?

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:26 PM

I wish, I'd ask for some of his cash from that absurd contract that the Cavs game him a few years ago.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 09:51 PM

Apparently the Lakers and Warriors are also interested in Jamison

Yahoo! Sports' Marc Spears said Tuesday to "keep an eye" on the Warriors and unrestricted free agent Antawn Jamison.

Spears is plugged in and aside from starting his career there, Jamison used to be repped by current Warriors GM Bob Myers. The Lakers and Bobcats are interested, too, and unlike the Warriors both of those squads have relatively legitimate cause to seek the 36-year old. The Lakers are contenders and the Bobcats could afford to burn a short-term deal on Jamison knowing they are devoid of bodies that can carry a load. The Warriors are a playoff bubble team with an injury prone roster, and need to continue to look at younger players.

Source: Marc Spears on Twitter


It looks like us and the Warriors both have the same ideas. We both want Hickson and Jamison, hopefully the Cats can at least get one of them.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 10:12 PM

Fwiw I'd be happy with jamison at a low price, but at some point the opportunity cost has to come into play, bothg in terms of cap space and playing time. I'm not a huge hickson fan, but I'd generally rather have him if priced similarly. Then sign mahimi or whatever his name is from dallas. Ideally we get a guy like ersan or hawes, but realistically we are 1-2 years away from it making sense to sign those type guys. No matter who we sign we aren't winning a playoff round, so let the youngins play.

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Posted 03 July 2012 - 11:22 PM

Fwiw I'd be happy with jamison at a low price, but at some point the opportunity cost has to come into play, bothg in terms of cap space and playing time. I'm not a huge hickson fan, but I'd generally rather have him if priced similarly. Then sign mahimi or whatever his name is from dallas. Ideally we get a guy like ersan or hawes, but realistically we are 1-2 years away from it making sense to sign those type guys. No matter who we sign we aren't winning a playoff round, so let the youngins play.


I agree I'd still like to sign a 5 to give Bismack some help down low and let him develop as a 5. Then maybe get a 5 in next years draft. So if we can't get Hawes I'd still like to get Mahimi or Kamen.

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Posted 04 July 2012 - 12:24 AM

wtf ru talking about? you want him to just magically sign durant rondo and wade overnight and become a powerhouse?


Please understand, he's still hurt that we passed over the godsend that is Harrison Barnes...


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