Vegan NFL players/athletes
Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:31 PM
Last summer I had watched my father go through his second major surgery due to heart and clogged artery issues. I (figuratively) watched in amazement as our accomplished and amazing health care providers spit his chest open, placed his heart in a bucket, "borrowed" a vein from his leg and patched everything together again. I remember being relieved when he pulled through but bugged when he remarked, "well, I'm good for another 70 years". But I couldn't put a handle on what exactly bugged me by that response.
I knew I personally at the time was 50-60 pounds overweight and also knew, looking at my father, that it would be me in that hospital, not if... but when. I didn't even have a real doctor. So I got one and went on a real diet (HMR diet). I lost 42 lbs. while I was waiting the 7 weeks to meet my new "grown up" doc. (cracks me up that I was 49 years old before getting a real Dr.!) I remember going into that appointment so proud of myself. But the blood work still showed high cholesterol across the board and the doctor asked if I had ever heard of the "Bill Clinton Diet" and that I should consider going vegan..... WTF?????!!!!!!!!
I literally laughed in the face of this Harvard educated doctor. I was a died-in-the-wool baconater and KFC fiend. No meat? No cheese? No Fuggin Way. But I was intrigued enough to go and research people like Dr Esselstyne ( http://www.heartattackproof.com/ ) his son Rip http://engine2diet.com/ ) and the seminal study by Dr. T. Colin Campbell entitled, "The China Study" http://www.tcolincampbell.org/ among many others. And I watched the movie, "Forks Over Knives" http://www.forksoverknives.com/ . and I quickly realized this was not a diet, it was a lifestyle change. But not only was I asked/TOLD to give up meat/cheese, Dr. Esselstyn also insisted on NO ADDED OIL. Do you know how hard it is to find food with no oil??
But I bought into the simplicity of it. You want to get rid of cholesterol? Don't put it in your damn mouth.
I decided to jump on board, give it 3 months and see what happened. I cheated a total of 3 times, all in Costa Rica in the early weeks, but never went hungry. Exactly 3 months later my cholesterol had dropped from dangerously high in 5 categories to "below normal" in every category. Very simply put, it validated everything that Esselstyn and Campbell had written and I knew this was how I would live the rest of my life. Which is problematic because I am the cook in the house and the wife and daughter try, but ....
It is funny to go out and explain to the waitress that I am a vegan and would like to be a pain in the ass and make a special order as my wife makes certain to loudly proclaim that I am a vegan for medical, not ethical reasons. While true, it really points out the biases inherent in this society towards vegans.
Everyone I meet and a lot of people reading this are thinking I am trying to be what I call an "Evangelical Vegan". People are so threatened at losing their meat, their cheese, their way of life. I do want to tell my story but "converting" people is not in my wheelhouse. Educating people is. And that is why this Arian Foster story bugged me so much. He is being slammed for his own personal decision.
There has never been a single fuging American put in the hospital for "lack of protein", vegans or carnivores. There is ample protein available in a plant based die not only for "normal" Americans for for elite athletes as well. That is not a theory, it is a fact.
Dr. Esselstyne's son Rip is an accomplished triathlete. Google is full of accomlished vegan athletes.. Foster is not breaking ground. The list of vegan athletes is extensive and documented. But listing them makes it seem even more like the goal of veganism is converting carnivores. Maybe so in many cases, not mine. I just think it is important to share the health benefit results of a plant-based diet. And Hugh pissed me off.
And being a vegan sure has crimped Tony Gonzalezs' career.
So be a sheep, eat a sheep or read up.
Arian Foster: http://espn.go.com/n...ays-going-vegan
Tony Gonzalez; http://espn.go.com/e...279/going-vegan
Fiametta (remember Tony?): http://espn.go.com/b...onger-than-ever
so many more.
Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:42 PM
anyways, literally every meal i eat has meat or cheese in it. there's no way i would ever consider going vegan.
Posted 12 July 2012 - 07:55 PM
What bugged me was Foster being slammed for it.
for the record, http://www.vegan-nut...alez-vegan.html , TG is not 100% vegan
and also again, not trying to convert anyone. I never considered it either. But I was shocked at how easy it was.
Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:01 AM
From what I've read eating meat is expensive and not beneficial to society as a whole. Corn used to feed animals could be used to feed people. I don't see why people shouldn't eat dairy products though. There are people who've lived 100+ years eating animals and dairy products. There are overweight vegetarians. If people don't eat dairy products the livestock population would plummet. What purpose does a cow serve if you're not going to eat it or its milk?
Also there are isolated groups of strict adherents to religions who live on dairy products and they tend to be extremely healthy (aside from the genetic problems they face due to inevitable inbreeding).
I don't see the point. Strawberry milk is delicious and the cow still lives. Also soy products tend to be contaminated with GMOs so you're trading one problem for another.
Posted 13 July 2012 - 01:55 AM
Posted 13 July 2012 - 02:42 AM
I think it shows real strength of character to be able to stick with veganism. You've got my admiration in that regard. Particularly living in the south where it just doesn't jive with the food culture.
Posted 13 July 2012 - 07:15 AM
Posted 13 July 2012 - 08:41 AM
being a vegan is amusing because when it comes up in conversation inevitably I get the vibe that people get defensive and assume I am trying to convert them. That is why I typically don't talk about it. I have no problem with meat-eaters, I fry up a pound of bacon for my family every weekend without feeling either guilty or tempted.
Going back to the reason for the thread, I'm not a natural athlete yet on a vegan diet I have dramatically improved my fitness level as well as dramatically lowering my cholesterol so the criticism of Foster rings hollow to me.
I do love my quinoa and I take handfuls of vitamins and limit my soy intake and go through fruits/veggies like crazy. but what has really amazed me is how easy it has been.
Posted 13 July 2012 - 12:47 PM
Posted 13 July 2012 - 03:36 PM
Posted 13 July 2012 - 11:27 PM
so I got that going for me.
Posted 14 July 2012 - 12:20 PM