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The illusion of needing another WR

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If LaFell was getting open on a more consistent basis he is fine.He shows flashes but in my opinion does not always get the separation you need to be a solid number 2

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I agree with teh OP, I think this team is set... Plenty of weapons, send out any of the above named WRs, or split out a RB, Olsen is pretty much another receiver, hopefully Barny will show us something.. There are plenty of good players to give the ball to, and most should be more familiar with the system, with what Chud is tryin to do. Tolbert, besides being a beast, was brought in for the same reason Nannee was last year. He is familiar with Chud's system... As long as nobody is bitchin aboout not gettin the ball, the biggest problem Cam should have is who gets the ball? Who is going to be most open?

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All this blather on a Saturday afternoon is great an all. So let me jump in.

First. Unless by some miraculous alignment of the stars a 26-27 year old, 5 year vet, falls in our lap. We are who we are this year.

Could there be a trade? Why not? We are not strangers to the trade route. But, basically another avenue shut down.

So we are back to, we are what we are. Some see this as a good thing. Count me one. Some see it as the downfall of western civilization. Gettis and Lafel are 3rd year players. We all know what that is supposed to mean. We HAVE to give them this year. Pilares is a young kid the Panthers love, but he has a narrow window of opportunity. Adams is safe. And seems to have quite a following, I am excited for him. Purely as a homer.

All that said. There is talent there. And we are going to see whether it develops or not. I will give my support to this cast and hope for the best. I can envision Gettis being what we thought he was going to be, and Lafel taking another step forward. That alone should help ease the burden. Adams is the wild card. If he can get on the field, watch out.

Just my thoughts. And GOOOOOOO CATS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Rayzor, I like you guy, and I do think that you add something to this board, but please stop using the term "meh". You are killing me, dude. In my estimation, "meh" is totally useless and unnecessary. Your earlier response to being a homer would have appeared so much more genuine and meaningful without that damned "meh" on the end. I hate "meh" even more than "teh" and "pwn". OMFG I hate web-isms.

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I am excited about Adams also. Chico reportedly raised some eyebrows when he compared Joe Adams to Deshaun Jackson. If his comparison comes to fruition, then Adams could be the steal of the draft.

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I am going to say it and I know it is going to hurt some of your feelings. Steve Smith is not going to last forever. When he is too old to be the Smitty we all remember, who is going to be there to take his place? Adams? Gettis? Lefell? Pilares? None of these individuals are close to Smitty's skill set. This is why we need to bring in someone who can eventually be the new #1. None of these players are that. I look around our division and I see a lot of talent at WR and we have Smitty and......... a few plug and play recievers.

Smitty will not last forever. He has said himself he doesn't want to be our #1 reciever anymore. Heaven forbid (knock on wood) something were to happen to him. Our offense is great. With another serious playmaker at WR, we could be one of the greatest of all time.

Before you look at the stats below. There will never be another S. Smith. Smitty is a one of a kind. There is NO Replacement for him like we know Steve Smith. Somehow we will put a New #1 out there but he won't resemble what Smitty did for the Panthers over his career. The uniqueness of Steve Smith is what makes him a HOFer. Yes one day we will put a new #1 on the field and IMO he is already on the roster.

Steve Smith 2001-2002 1026 yds Brandon LaFell 2010-2011 1081 yds

Steve Smith Rookie season 154 yds David Gettis Rookie Season 508 yds

As these young receivers become veterans. They will mature into players that will handle the #1 Position. Adding a reject from another team is DEFINITELY NOT going to be better than what we are developing on this team.

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Before you look at the stats below. There will never be another S. Smith. Smitty is a one of a kind. There is NO Replacement for him like we know Steve Smith. Somehow we will put a New #1 out there but he won't resemble what Smitty did for the Panthers over his career. The uniqueness of Steve Smith is what makes him a HOFer. Yes one day we will put a new #1 on the field and IMO he is already on the roster.

Steve Smith 2001-2002 1026 yds Brandon LaFell 2010-2011 1081 yds

Steve Smith Rookie season 154 yds David Gettis Rookie Season 508 yds

As these young receivers become veterans. They will mature into players that will handle the #1 Position. Adding a reject from another team is DEFINITELY NOT going to be better than what we are developing on this team.

Your statistical comparison was effectually undermined by your first three sentences.

Moreover, ask New England if Wes Welker is a reject. Some of these so-called "rejects" in the NFL turn into gold in the right hands (just like sometimes gold is mistakenly thrown away if you don't do your due diligence to pan it out).

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Your statistical comparison was effectually undermined by your first three sentences.

Moreover, ask New England if Wes Welker is a reject. Some of these so-called "rejects" in the NFL turn into gold in the right hands (just like sometimes gold is mistakenly thrown away if you don't do your due diligence to pan it out).

My point is you are NEVER going to replace a Steve Smith. Sure you will have a No 1. Receiver but never another player like Steve Smith.

Based on the statistics I gave you. We have two up and coming talents on this team. Far more valuable than a rejected receiver from another team. Wes Welker was an exception to the rule not the norm. Go ahead name me another. For every one you name I probably can name 3 or 4 that never panned out..

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Steve Smith breaks his leg = Carolina is fuged.....someone would have to prove to be something they haven't. He is the 2nd most irreplaceable person on offense.

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My point is you are NEVER going to replace a Steve Smith. Sure you will have a No 1. Receiver but never another player like Steve Smith.

Based on the statistics I gave you. We have two up and coming talents on this team. Far more valuable than a rejected receiver from another team. Wes Welker was an exception to the rule not the norm. Go ahead name me another. For every one you name I probably can name 3 or 4 that never panned out..

I am not going to go through a back and forth, but it's the smart person that does their due diligence on whatever possible talent there is to be utilized.

And, what exactly is a reject? Is it a past pro-bowler like Braylon Edwards, T.O. or Randy Moss? How about a past champion like Plax or Santonio Holmes?

Within that same vein, I don't believe that it is a coincidence that the last time ( :P ) we went to the Super Bowl was when we made a key addition---perhaps the best free agent acquisition in franchise history, if not appropriate and aptly timed---to our wide receving corps: Ricky Proehl.

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I am not going to go through a back and forth, but it's the smart person that does their due diligence on whatever possible talent there is to be utilized. And, what exactly is a reject? Is it a past pro-bowler like Braylon Edwards, T.O. or Randy Moss? How about a past champion like Plax or Santonio Holmes? Within that same vein, I don't believe that it is a coincidence that the last time ( :P ) we went to the Super Bowl was when we made a key addition---perhaps the best free agent acquisition in franchise history, if not appropriate and aptly timed---to our wide receving corps: Ricky Proehl.

Don't forget we added a running game and a Quarterback. Ricky Proehl was an addition we needed but not the reason we went to the Super Bowl. Reaching a little bit with that argument aren't you? Williams is not an addition we need. There isn't one receiver, Gettis, LaFell, Pilares, Adams, Smith that I would cut to add a former bust. Why waste a pre-season roster spot on a possible hidden gem for a BUST.

I wouldn't do it and nor will the Panthers.

Case Closed

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I am not going to go through a back and forth, but it's the smart person that does their due diligence on whatever possible talent there is to be utilized.

And, what exactly is a reject? Is it a past pro-bowler like Braylon Edwards, T.O. or Randy Moss? How about a past champion like Plax or Santonio Holmes?

Within that same vein, I don't believe that it is a coincidence that the last time ( :P ) we went to the Super Bowl was when we made a key addition---perhaps the best free agent acquisition in franchise history, if not appropriate and aptly timed---to our wide receving corps: Ricky Proehl.

People also think back and forget about Proehl....he was a much bigger part than his stat sheet would suggest. HUGE catches.

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