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[panther4life]

Of all people CRA found this nugget.

So this topic is finally dead!!!

Nothing guaranteed for Williams after this year...which I didn't know.


http://www.nfl.com/n...arolina-panther

One look at Williams' five-year, $43 million contract, Cam Newton's involvement in the running game (70 designed running plays in 2012, including 33 in the red zone, according to Football Outsiders Almanac 2012) and the arrival of Mike Tolbert on a four-year, $10 million contract this offseason casts doubt over Stewart's long-term future with the team, but a return is not impossible.

After this season, none of the three years and $18 million remaining on Williams' is guaranteed. With Williams turning 30 next April, the Panthers could release the older back and go with Stewart, who doesn't turn 26 until next March.

So sorry for making another thread on this topic but this needed exposure for everyone to see.

[Jackofalltrades]

Don't bank on it.

[La Pantera]

LOL...now we can argue this topic in three separate threads. You're going to give CRA an aneurysm.

[CRA]

Still has cap impacts...

http://www.spotrac.c...ngelo-williams/

Cool site (FYI- topic and issue aside, this site has all the contracts)

[panther4life]

Still has cap impacts...

http://www.spotrac.c...ngelo-williams/

Cool site (FYI- topic and issue aside, this site has all the contracts)

familiar with that site but not always accurate. If we cut him there will not be an impact whatsoever. only guaranteed money left would hit the cap and according to that NFL.COM article theres no guaranteed money left after this year.

[mvp2011]

He will restructure so they can stsy together. Great news!!

[KendrickPanther]

Yeah that's not how it works. He still has signing bonus money on our books for the duration of his contract.

[CRA]

familiar with that site but not always accurate. If we cut him there will not be an impact whatsoever. only guaranteed money left would hit the cap and according to that NFL.COM article theres no guaranteed money left after this year.

That is not my understanding....maybe someone more educated on it can explain. This issue aside I would like to know.

I was always told despite getting his signing bonus upfront...from a cap aspect they pro rate it over the course of the contract. So you take a signing bonus for example, divide it by the length of the contract and apply that for each year.

So he would have a pretty nice cap hit if that occurred

[TANTRIC-NINJA]

Probally a restruture if D Will has life in him...why leave.

[Mr. Scot]

I used to try and follow the cap structure stuff closely. These days I don't think about it near as much.

The NFLPA no longer making player's annual salaries easily accessible on their site probably dimmed my enthusiasm a lot.

[panther4life]

I just e-mailed the guy at ask the commish for clarification. Maybe someone can tweet gantt and ask him?

[ARSEN]

Stewart will be a starting in 2013 and I think Williams will be traded for a mid round pick. Stewart is an elite talent and you cannot let him go. Williams will be 30 and past his prime. Easy decision to make.

We wont tag Stewart and have Williams at the same time... Paying almost $25 million for 3 RBs is insane. Especially with Cam Newton under center.

[Gallagher]

F u c k that. Why would we cut one of our best offensive weapons? Over money?! C'mon man.

I think all ya'll need is a healthy dosage of DeAngelo Williams highlights to remind you what this man has done for our organization and why we love him.

[Ivan The Awesome]