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The Dark Knight Rises SPOILER ALERT THREAD (with a preface that contains no spoilers)


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#61 nickzz

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Posted 28 July 2012 - 10:24 PM

I just watched the 1st Batman 2005 and the little blond hair blue eyed kid is King Joffrey....lol

I haven't watched the movie in forever and the kids recorded it and the kid that Katie Homes protects against the crazies at the end of the movie is him.


lol, noticed that last week when i saw a rerun on tv

finally saw it. i enjoyed it, but to everyone saying it's the best trilogy ever... rofl

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:29 AM

am I the only one who absolutly hated this movie? It was 100% crap. This was not batman the character at all. Batman has always used his gadgets etc to stay one step ahead oh his opponents and to give him an edge yet he decides to take on Bain, not once but twice in hand to hand combat? Alfred walks out on Batman because he doesnt want him to get hurt? LMFAO. Alfred encouraged Wayne to become batman in Batman Begins. And as long as the core stayed in the reactor, it was stable but yet they have an emergency plan to destroy the reactor by flooding it? A broken back/spinal injury can be fixed by a punch and hanging from a rope? Just wow. What kind of prison is this. A clear escape route, no guards, and inmates get as many chances as they want to escape. The whole movie was just plain idiotic. No where near as brillant The Dark Knight was. IMO this is the worst Batman movie out of all the Batman movies.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 10:24 AM

Not sure why I can't use any of the advanced reply options, but I thought this was the best visual in the movie.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:05 AM

Christopher Nolan took on this franchise to stay away from the complete garbage that Schumacher turned the franchise into. Nolan had the impossible task of re-booting the Batman franchise, in which its previous movie featured scenes such as this gem:



How in the world was he going to top this? Sarcasm over. By taking the best elements from some of the best comics and making a superhero franchise plausible in the real world, is the answer.

Fanboys still got their gadgets, their references (still haven't seen anyone mention the Killer Croc reference when Gordon jumped into the sewer) and their character arc which was all made possible by a director that had to abandon his visionary trilogy because of the death of his main villain (in real life).

So, he goes out of his way to appeal to the fanboys by adding Batman's true nemesis, his anti-hero/occasional love interest, and his sidekick in a way that should have satisfied both sides of the spectrum (what makes him even more genius is incorporating a Dickens novel motif, inevitably knowing there would be a rift).

So to the side that dislikes this movie because they are so fixated on the comic series in which there is a villain that literally has the power of being obsessed with calenders is complaining because there aren't enough of gadgets, or there are plot-holes galore? I have no idea what to tell you. Re-watch Mr. Freeze idioms, I guess.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:09 AM

Lol at chicken wing

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 11:13 AM

its a good thing he doesn't know what the lazarus pit really is

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 12:09 PM

Someone says that Batman didn't act like Batman and then proceeds to spell the name of one of his biggest villains wrong. Yup, they really know the character.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 01:46 PM

bane is not a legitimate batman villain imo, but that's another argument altogether.

i did like this version of bane a lot though. except for the voice.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 08:48 PM

am I the only one who absolutly hated this movie? It was 100% crap. This was not batman the character at all. Batman has always used his gadgets etc to stay one step ahead oh his opponents and to give him an edge yet he decides to take on Bain, not once but twice in hand to hand combat? Alfred walks out on Batman because he doesnt want him to get hurt? LMFAO. Alfred encouraged Wayne to become batman in Batman Begins. And as long as the core stayed in the reactor, it was stable but yet they have an emergency plan to destroy the reactor by flooding it? A broken back/spinal injury can be fixed by a punch and hanging from a rope? Just wow. What kind of prison is this. A clear escape route, no guards, and inmates get as many chances as they want to escape. The whole movie was just plain idiotic. No where near as brillant The Dark Knight was. IMO this is the worst Batman movie out of all the Batman movies.


- Batman fought in hand to hand combat in all of Nolan's films. He was forced into combat the first time when lured by Selina Kyle, then returned to the city to take on Bane and his henchmen. He had to take part in the chaos to give the city the confidence it needed. He was in it with him and wouldn't be intimidated, just like he wanted Gotham to feel towards the organized crime lords. He figured out Bane's weakness and attacked his mask. Still being ahead of the opponent in the end.

- Alfred saw a crippling man that still felt that he had to do everything himself. He wasn't helping anymore. He was committing suicide. Alfred felt that Batman gave the city back to the citizens and at the first sign of worry, Bruce wanted to just up and throw himself into the fire. He had to be a symbol, not a sacrifice. That is what he was against.

- If the reactor was found by the wrong people, or if something unexpected happens, they had a backup plan. I think any nuclear powerplant would agree that they are stable, but they still have plans in place in case that changes. Not unheard of and certainly not idiotic.

- A dislocated vertebrae is put in place by a chiropractor. This was just a more brutal example.

- Bane was in charge of the lazarus pit and how it operated. He felt any man that was capable of escaping, deserved their freedom. Showing how he felt about Talia (respect for the only person to do so), and also how difficult the feat truly is.


I really think your analysis was an over-exaggerated attempt at going against the grain by using surface-level examples without digging any deeper. Granted the movie wasn't perfect. But rationalizations could be made for each point you had issue with. The trilogy was never going to be like the comic books. Nolan wanted to show and exploit the human intricasies of Gotham and Batman.

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Posted 31 July 2012 - 09:52 PM

"Let's kick some ice!" - Mr. Freeze

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:16 PM

Just watched it today. While I still like The Dark Knight better, I thought this one was pretty good as well. I also like how Nolan draws parallels with our own world...really makes it easier to get into, IMO.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:26 PM

You guys think this is better than godfather? Shame.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 01:39 PM

Took itself too seriously. Glad I only went to see it as a matinee. Still a fun movie, but not anywhere near earth shattering.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 04:34 PM

You guys think this is better than godfather? Shame.



i'm going to commit a sin and admit i've never seen the godfather trilogy. or scarface. i own scarface on dvd and have never gotten around to watching it.

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Posted 06 August 2012 - 04:38 PM

Scarface is surprisingly bad.


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