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Interesting Thoughts on the New Batman Film

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Err, it was a release to police offices to be on the lookout for possible theater incidents. I don't think it was ever classified. The term would then be "declassified" not "unclassified" which means that it was never classified to begin with.

but what i dont get is, if they were planning this poo from the start, why release something like this at all?

I dont think youre looking at what he was saying in the right context. All he was doing was pointing out how hollywood likes to insert little bits of truth on whats going on in the world, into their movies, passing it off to a naive public who regard said concepts as fiction.

he seems to be making a connection from Bane (a character made just under 20 years ago), to a guy who will supposedly come out with free energy in a few months. besides, stuff like unlimited energy has been very common in fiction for god knows how long, well before the roethschilds got rich as fug in the early 1800s thats for damn sure

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It's not a "free energy" device, it's a fusion reactor. Watch the movie, fellas.

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it felt like a libertarian's wet dream but goddamn bane owned

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It's not a "free energy" device, it's a fusion reactor. Watch the movie, fellas.

If your're referring to the device in the film, that's exactly what they said it was, and that it could be converted into a fusion reactor by wrong the people.

oh yeah, cause crazy poo happening in movies like unlimited energy has never been done before. must be a conspiracy

"my tree has green leaves. money is green, money is the sole power of the rothlschilds and rockefellers. ISNT THAT FUNNY, i think my tree is in on this conspiracy"

this is the logic that you are using

You totally misunderstood what I was getting at, and I think you went a little overboard there. Haha

What I'm trying to do is connect dots that may or may not be there, who knows. For those who believe in the whole illuminati deal, it is also believed that they control the mainstream media and hollywood as well, amirite? I'm just saying, that I found it interesting that the weapon used against the public in the film is a technology that is supposedly about to be revealed by an IRL scientist in a couple months. You could go back to that Rush Limbaugh topic that someone posted, with him saying stupid viewers are going to associate Bane with Bain, and change it to: Stupid people are possibly going to see a groundbreaking free energy technology in the coming months IRL, and then think back to the Batman film and think "Hey aren't those kinds of things really dangerous?". I don't necessarily believe that it IS a conspiracy, just an interesting thought that went through the old noggin.

A free-energy device violates the Second Law of Thermodynamics.

Fun stuff for comic books, but nothing to invest too much of your time into in the real world.

Like I said, I have no idea if this M.T Keshe scientist has any real validity, but apparently he is actually holding an international conference for such a technology in September. Go look it up for yourself and decide.

As for the whole shooting incident, there are a lot of crazies out there, so I wouldn't immediately jump to conclusions. BUT, I do find it weird that he shot all those people up, and then surrendered peacefully with the police. Don't those kinds usually take themselves out first or choose death by cops? And why would he warn the police of his own booby traps? (I think I heard thats what happened, maybe not)

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If your're referring to the device in the film, that's exactly what they said it was, and that it could be converted into a fusion reactor by wrong the people.

Oh God Jesus Lord Christ. It is a fusion reactor, which is how it generates energy. And as such, could be used as a weapon.

Here is a production still of it. Wayne Enterprises Fusion Reactor.

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it felt like a libertarian's wet dream but goddamn bane owned

Yeah if you look at the movie on the surface level, it feels like an extremely hamfisted corporatist propaganda piece, but that is, like I said, surface level. ie if you look at it and say "Bane says some populist stuff, Bane is the bad guy, therefor corporatism is good." But that is a retarded way to look at a story. In reality he is corruption using populism as a trojan horse, and he is killed by the actual populist (Catwoman).

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Yeah if you look at the movie on the surface level, it feels like an extremely hamfisted corporatist propaganda piece, but that is, like I said, surface level. ie if you look at it and say "Bane says some populist stuff, Bane is the bad guy, therefor corporatism is good." But that is a retarded way to look at a story. In reality he is corruption using populism as a trojan horse, and he is killed by the actual populist (Catwoman).

yeah but the bad guys were "exiling" the bankers and political players and we are supposed to feel bad for them but tbqh it seems like a fair way to deal with the types who purposefully crashed the economy for personal gain

i mean look at how the people who were swayed by bane's message were portrayed. it just felt like "look at those dumb libs, they got what they wanted and without the rich to keep them in line they're just ransacking the city, now here's a shot of a rich person trying to cross a semi-frozen waterway so pity this poor misunderstood soul, thankfully bruce wayne is richer than god and can come along to save the day for these fuging animals because he is truly the hero they need, but do not deserve"

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yeah but the bad guys were "exiling" the bankers and political players and we are supposed to feel bad for them but tbqh it seems like a fair way to deal with the types who purposefully crashed the economy for personal gain

i mean look at how the people who were swayed by bane's message were portrayed. it just felt like "look at those dumb libs, they got what they wanted and without the rich to keep them in line they're just ransacking the city, now here's a shot of a rich person trying to cross a semi-frozen waterway so pity this poor misunderstood soul, thankfully bruce wayne is richer than god and can come along to save the day for these fuging animals because he is truly the hero they need, but do not deserve"

I'm not sure that we were supposed to feel bad for them. I saw it as a schadenfreude moment. Especially with Daggett and his assistant guy being killed. I mean Daggett was the absolute embodiment of wealthy elitist weaselly corporatism, and the film was very clear about portraying him as a villain. When he confronted Bane with "I've paid you a small fortune," and Bane says "And you think that gives you power over me?" and kills him, I can't imagine anyone actually thinking "No! Bane didn't honor their arrangement! He should have had power over Bane!" It was two evil forces meeting, and a villain killing a villain, which is how I see the whole exiling thing. Besides Gordon, the people they sent onto the ice were all weaselly looking assholes, if they wanted you to relate or sympathize, they would have been healthy, normal people.

Daggett is a huge wrench in the theory that it's a right wing message. The movie goes out of its way to show that the corporate side is a villain, too.

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I am probably going to regret asking this, but why on earth would any organization conduct an operation like this? Condensed version please.

Because "fast and furious" failed.

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aka poo happens. Not everything has to happen for a reason. There's not a logical reason for most of the fuged up poo that happens(in a philosophical sense).

As to the OP, film makers are people too. They have their own opinions and political views. Those views are bound to bleed through into their work.

Also, anyone that goes into a movie such as this one looking for political messages is probably going to find the message they want to find..

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I'm not sure that we were supposed to feel bad for them. I saw it as a schadenfreude moment. Especially with Daggett and his assistant guy being killed. I mean Daggett was the absolute embodiment of wealthy elitist weaselly corporatism, and the film was very clear about portraying him as a villain. When he confronted Bane with "I've paid you a small fortune," and Bane says "And you think that gives you power over me?" and kills him, I can't imagine anyone actually thinking "No! Bane didn't honor their arrangement! He should have had power over Bane!" It was two evil forces meeting, and a villain killing a villain, which is how I see the whole exiling thing. Besides Gordon, the people they sent onto the ice were all weaselly looking assholes, if they wanted you to relate or sympathize, they would have been healthy, normal people.

Daggett is a huge wrench in the theory that it's a right wing message. The movie goes out of its way to show that the corporate side is a villain, too.

Damnit that word

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Also, anyone that goes into a movie such as this one looking for political messages is probably going to find the message they want to find..

This.

Hell they even try to make the audience sympathize with Bane for a brief second.

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