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#16 FurdTurgason

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 12:37 PM

Would you trade your football team for those kids to have never been harmed?


Would you trade yours for all the women who have been raped by members of the football team?

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 12:39 PM

You know there is a handfull of people that no matter what the punishment is it will never be enough in almost every situation. Those people are not happy until someone is fired, someone is put to death, someone is suspeneded, etc...The situation probably has no bearing on their life whatsoever but they are so consumed with the punishments. These people are easy to identify in threads like this, any Bountygate or Saints** thread, anytime a player gets in trouble with the law, if someone is mean to a puppy, etc. They don't think rationally and it's always "Kill em all and let God sort em out!!!"


You're right. Personally I hope PSU decides to donate a portion of all PSU athletic sales from her on out to an organization that helps children recover from abuse. Also have warning signs of an endangered child in programs. PSU becoming their own child protection advocacy group could go a long way with the healing it has control of.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 12:39 PM

Would you trade yours for all the women who have been raped by members of the football team?


Still a Mark Sanchez fan?

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 12:48 PM

Would you trade your football team for those kids to have never been harmed?


What a stupid question. Trolling now?

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 12:55 PM

The prestige of your football team is one of the reasons it was covered up.

It's more hypothetical....no more football ever and those kids never being molested vs what you have today

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 01:03 PM

The prestige of your football team is one of the reasons it was covered up.

It's more hypothetical....no more football ever and those kids never being molested vs what you have today


PSU never being a football team wouldn't of stopped Sandusky from molesting kids. He just would have found a different outlet. Maybe instead he becomes a coach for the Gamecocks. Second Mile becomes a program in Carolina's to "help" kids but instead is really a front for Sandusky to take advantage of helpless children. Maybe the leaders at USC go a different direction and do the right thing. Maybe they don't. But we are just being hypothetical here anyways.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 01:23 PM

PSU never being a football team wouldn't of stopped Sandusky from molesting kids. He just would have found a different outlet. Maybe instead he becomes a coach for the Gamecocks. Second Mile becomes a program in Carolina's to "help" kids but instead is really a front for Sandusky to take advantage of helpless children. Maybe the leaders at USC go a different direction and do the right thing. Maybe they don't. But we are just being hypothetical here anyways.


Yep. Or if he didn't pick another football program, maybe he gets involved in a church function, or the Scouts, or a little league somewhere. It's amazing to me how much of this slides off of Sandusky. I think it's because a lot of us can't wrap our minds around Jerry Sandusky's motives, but we can wrap them around Paterno's. Paterno's dead. His name is schitt. His wins are gone. His statue is gone. They have done everything but dig him up and hang his corpse. Why can't the university, with all of those involved in the cover up gone now, move forward and try to heal? The kids will have their day in court. Anyone think they won't win those cases? There are pedos everywhere, and this could have happened anywhere. There is even a LEGAL organization called NAMBLA for these people. A lot of the people here championing the destruction of Penn State will actually defend NAMBLA's right to exist.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 01:23 PM

Some dude on WFNZ who writes for SI said he doesn't expect a lot of players to transfer.

My ass would be on the first plane out of there.

Also, The Paterno family needs to STFU. They are doing absolutely nothing but digging a bigger grave (pun intended!).

PS: I'm glad that the NCAA dropped the hammer (some could argue that it wasnt dropped hard enough, and I can most def understand that), but realize that there is still a little bit of gray area on which NCAA rules were broken. What did the NCAA do when that guy killed his team mate at Baylor like 8 years ago? what about the UVA LAX player who got drunk and killed his GF last season?

Still think they could of done more, but considering the legal aspects, the NCAA did finally do something I can mostly agree with.

60 million to PennState is a small drop in a very large bucket, though.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 01:38 PM

I think more kids will transfer next year being that there's only 6 weeks left till kickoff.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 01:40 PM

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PS: I'm glad that the NCAA dropped the hammer (some could argue that it wasnt dropped hard enough, and I can most def understand that), but realize that there is still a little bit of gray area on which NCAA rules were broken. What did the NCAA do when that guy killed his team mate at Baylor like 8 years ago? what about the UVA LAX player who got drunk and killed his GF last season?
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There was no cover up by the institution in those cases.

For the NCAA this was not about Jerry Sandusky but the coaches, the AD, and President covering it up.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 01:46 PM

There was no cover up by the institution in those cases.

For the NCAA this was not about Jerry Sandusky but the coaches, the AD, and President covering it up.


Actually the Baylor basketball coach did cover that up. I think his name was Bliss.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 03:08 PM

If your a D student in high school now is the perfect time to apply to penn state lol

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 04:38 PM

Why on Earth would you not have done the right thing here?

I still can't get my arms around this whole thing.

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Posted 23 July 2012 - 04:49 PM

Why on Earth would you not have done the right thing here?

I still can't get my arms around this whole thing.


I am still interested in exactly what McQuery told them. I don't believe anything that guy says. He says he witnessed something horrific and did not go to the police. He continued to be part of Sandusky's charity. His story changed 4 times. The jury in the trial did not even believe his testimony....the one charge that Sandusky was acquired of.

I still can't fathom that he told Paterno/Curley/etc that he saw JS raping a boy and they did nothing. Maybe they did, but I just find that do hard to get my head around. More likely that he told them he saw/heard something that appeared wrong...Sandusky lied as usual...and they let their concern for the reputation of the program cloud their judgement.

This does not excuse their inaction. Any accusation if abuse that involves a school or teacher/coach MUST be immediately turned over to the authorities.

The PSU family made a grave error in judgement that lead to the continued abuse. However, I still din't believe the knowingly and intentionally covered up for a pedophile that they believed was abusing kids.

But, they should have never made that choice. Should have let the authorities Di their job.


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Posted 23 July 2012 - 04:56 PM

I am still interested in exactly what McQuery told them. I don't believe anything that guy says. He says he witnessed something horrific and did not go to the police. He continued to be part of Sandusky's charity. His story changed 4 times. The jury in the trial did not even believe his testimony....the one charge that Sandusky was acquired of.

I still can't fathom that he told Paterno/Curley/etc that he saw JS raping a boy and they did nothing. Maybe they did, but I just find that do hard to get my head around. More likely that he told them he saw/heard something that appeared wrong...Sandusky lied as usual...and they let their concern for the reputation of the program cloud their judgement.

This does not excuse their inaction. Any accusation if abuse that involves a school or teacher/coach MUST be immediately turned over to the authorities.

The PSU family made a grave error in judgement that lead to the continued abuse. However, I still din't believe the knowingly and intentionally covered up for a pedophile that they believed was abusing kids.

But, they should have never made that choice. Should have let the authorities Di their job.


This is something that has been bothering me, but prestige and popularity cloud peoples judgement all the time.

I just struggle to think that Joe Pa could have gone home to his kids, and grand kids knowing what was going on in the background.

It certainly seems like he did though.


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