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Jeff Otah traded to the Jets

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Yeah because no rookie linemen has every improved his second year or beyond, right?? Since he struggled as a rookie he will always suck, right??

Seriously????

He may improve....got no issue with him being a developmental guy.

But people claiming he was above average last year and that we got no RT worries....that is silly homer logic. Not realistic.

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He may improve....got no issue with him being a developmental guy.

But people claiming he was above average last year and that we got no RT worries....that is silly homer logic. Not realistic.

Given the circumstances he was in, he did fine. He wasn't great for sure but few rookies are even those drafted high under the most ideal situations. There is no reason to believe that he won't improve this year and Rivera has been complementary of him which says something. And as far as a developmental guy, he is the starter until someone unseats him.

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what the hell guys? I leave the internets for about 18 hours and this poo happens!!!!

Anyways, Otah was probably going to get cut or not re-signed, to be completely honest, getting something, anything for him was a plus. I'd like for the conditional pick to be a 4th or 3rd but it doesn't sound like that is the case.

Byron Bell played decent last year, hopefully he can step up, however with Gross getting older I foresee us taking a LT in the first or second in the draft next year, maybe develop that kid at RT then switch him and Gross down the road.

To everyone saying Otah was a bust/bad pick: Blame Denver, they took Ryan Clady right before. Seriously though Otah was a road paver when on the field, the problem was getting him on the field.

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Like others have said... this move was about much more than just getting some value back for Otah. Rivera's comments all along have suggested there are problems with Otah that go beyond his injury.

Keeping a guy like Otah around sends the wrong message to the rest of the team, glad we moved him.

I missed a lot of this coverage, what did Rivera say about him?

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Given the circumstances he was in, he did fine. He wasn't great for sure but few rookies are even those drafted high under the most ideal situations. There is no reason to believe that he won't improve this year and Rivera has been complementary of him which says something. And as far as a developmental guy, he is the starter until someone unseats him.

Given the circumstances....hell, you could line up this year and suck and claim given the circumstances you did well.

RT is going to be an issue until they find someone who can play this year.

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Yeah because no rookie linemen has every improved his second year or beyond, right?? Since he struggled as a rookie he will always suck, right??

Seriously????

Off the top of my head how about Jason Peters who is a 4 time All pro who was a UDFA for Buffalo, was cut and resigned and didn't become a starter until 2005.

How about Nate Newton who was drafted by the Redskins as a OG in 1983, was cut and spent 2 years in the USFL, joined the Cowboys when the USFL folded and was a 6 time pro-bowler.

So they were guys who had to develop for years....not thrown into starting roles to get franchise QBs hurt when they couldn't cut it early on?????? ? ?

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Given the circumstances he was in, he did fine. He wasn't great for sure but few rookies are even those drafted high under the most ideal situations. There is no reason to believe that he won't improve this year and Rivera has been complementary of him which says something. And as far as a developmental guy, he is the starter until someone unseats him.

Give it up P55. He is like the Borg of stupidity, resistance is futile.

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Give it up P55. He is like the Borg of stupidity, resistance is futile.

55 is a big boy. He can handle different views without having to name call...he knows he can defend his stance.

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There are 4 guys who can play RT on this roster, that spot is one of the last spots I'm worried about.Bell showed improvement last year so I think its his to lose.

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It was definately time for Otah to move on - he jsut want motivated and I dont see why that isnt obvious to everyone.

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Given the circumstances....hell, you could line up this year and suck and claim given the circumstances you did well.

RT is going to be an issue until they find someone who can play this year.

It was well documented that the lockout would negatively affect rookies in particular and especially those teams with new coaches installing new systems. Bell didn't even get to work with the 1s in training camp.

Now you are voiding any credibility you have just to win an argument where you have no leg to stand on.

So they were guys who had to develop for years....not thrown into starting roles to get franchise QBs hurt when they couldn't cut it early on?????? ? ?

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I didn't realize Newton got hurt last year. I must have missed that. Another one of your wild exaggerations in a vain attempt to make a point

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It was well documented that the lockout would negatively affect rookies in particular and especially those teams with new coaches installing new systems. Bell didn't even get to work with the 1s in training camp.

Now you are voiding any credibility you have just to win an argument where you have no leg to stand on.

I didn't realize Newton got hurt last year. I must have missed that. Another one of your wild exaggerations in a vain attempt to make a point

Go back and watch the magic Cam displayed as Bell whiffed....or watch Bell commit penalties to avoid someone easily beating him. That type of play is what gets QBs hurt.

All your focus is on Bell being a rookie....and totally downplaying his lack of talent/ability (justifying the poor play as lack of time with the team). Even Bell was about to give up on getting on a roster as a scrub. He was undrafted for a reason....a TC isnt going to magically make him starting material in 2012

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