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If men have no say in abortion, why should they have to pay child support?

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I have never heard of leaving the father off the birth certificate because it was in the best interest of the mother for welfare.

Some...probably a lot...of those cases were also where the mother probably wasn't sure of who the father is. Maury Povich could have a full time job.

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The father shoiuld be involved in every decision made regarding the child starting at conception.

I agree, though my opinion is that ultimately the final decision rests with the mother as far as abortion goes, because it is her body.

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If mother wants to abort, father should get custody of child, have her pay him child support. Or have her rights terminated and her name removed from birth certificate.

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If mother wants to abort, father should get custody of child, have her pay him child support. Or have her rights terminated and her name removed from birth certificate.

That'll never fly.

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I would be happy with that, so long as the man in that situation has to carry the baby inside him too

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If mother wants to abort, father should get custody of child, have her pay him child support. Or have her rights terminated and her name removed from birth certificate.

If he can manage to get it out of her and carry it to term himself, go for it.

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To reiterate, this is an apple and oranges question.

Child support is completely gender neutral. Abortion is not, unless you guys know of a way for a man to be pregnant.

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Some...probably a lot...of those cases were also where the mother probably wasn't sure of who the father is. Maury Povich could have a full time job.

Then that's a second reason. You sure are assuming you know a lot about how women think and why they do things.

You do know that a woman can name as many possible father's as she wants, and the state will make all of them do a dna test, at the father's expense?

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Then that's a second reason. You sure are assuming you know a lot about how women think and why they do things.

You do know that a woman can name as many possible father's as she wants, and the state will make all of them do a dna test, at the father's expense?

I was a contractor for Register of Deeds around the state in the 90s when welfare reform was signed in. A lot of women came in getting birth certificates editted to include the father's because there was the thought they were losing some of their benefit and had to have this in order to have a new revenue stream (child support).

For every negative pregnancy test against the father...the mother should have to cover those costs. She could simply lie about having sex with someone.

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So you want all father's to have a name on a birth certificate, but expect women to pay for it in the event there's more than one father possible. Maybe you possible father's should start wrapping it up more and come up with a birth control pill for men.

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So you want all father's to have a name on a birth certificate, but expect women to pay for it in the event there's more than one father possible. Maybe you possible father's should start wrapping it up more and come up with a birth control pill for men.

Maybe the possible baby mother should also be proactive and be on birth control if she doesn't want unwanted pregnancy to happen as well well as have condoms on hand to make sure whatever potential father does wrap it up or get the fug out of bed.

Don't take that as disagreement of potential fathers should be carrying condoms and it all being on the woman. Supposed to come of as equal responsbility to be proactive.

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Maybe the possible baby mother should also be proactive and be on birth control if she doesn't want unwanted pregnancy to happen as well well as have condoms on hand to make sure whatever potential father does wrap it up or get the fug out of bed.

this sounds like a great idea.

quick question should reliable contraception be cheap or almost free for everyone, perhaps provided as a public service?

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